the.forumer Senior Member 415 posts Likes: 1 Joined Oct 2011 More info | Sep 01, 2013 00:49 | #1 as above - sometimes the red lights at the location is overly strong that i can't seem to fix using WB temp/tint or reducing luminance on the red channel. what exactly should i do on LR in order to restore those accurate colours? thanks!
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tonylong ...winded More info | Sep 01, 2013 02:18 | #2 First off shoot Raw! If you don't shoot with an accurate White Balance Raw is your "bestest friend"! Tony
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tkbslc Cream of the Crop 24,604 posts Likes: 44 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Utah, USA More info | Sep 01, 2013 02:46 | #3 The definition of blown out means the information is lost. You can't fix it. Taylor
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BigAl007 Cream of the Crop 8,118 posts Gallery: 556 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 1681 Joined Dec 2010 Location: Repps cum Bastwick, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, UK. More info | Sep 01, 2013 09:04 | #4 I get the feeling that your problem is not so much that the red channel is blown, but that you are effectively dealing with monochromatic red light. If you ONLY have red light then there will be no data in the green or blue channels. WB deals with the situation where there is a preponderance of one colour in a broad spectrum of light, as there is still data available in the other channels to balance out the colour cast. With only having light in the red channel you have no other data to extrapolate the "correct" colour from. If you light a blue or green object using just red light then both objects will appear black, or a shade of red depending on the exact colour.
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DThompson Goldmember 4,059 posts Likes: 415 Joined Feb 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ky More info | I don't have LR, but there is a method using Apply Image in Photoshop that might help. I'm guessing your example is heavily cropped and/or underexposed a bit. Anyway, here is my guess on the image. Still needs work, but you get the ideal. Image hosted by forum (661151) © D Thompson [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. Dennis
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kirkt Cream of the Crop More info | Sep 01, 2013 11:28 | #6 Is it possible to upload an example image (to a file sharing site like Dropbox) for further analysis? Kirk
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tzalman Fatal attraction. 13,497 posts Likes: 213 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel More info | Sep 01, 2013 18:07 | #7 There's not any metadata in the OP image either. If you used LR or ACR on a Raw file an xmp detailing your editing should have been embedded in the jpg. DPP would have embedded a vrd. Elie / אלי
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Sep 03, 2013 07:05 | #8 D Thompson wrote in post #16258489 I don't have LR, but there is a method using Apply Image in Photoshop that might help. I'm guessing your example is heavily cropped and/or underexposed a bit. Anyway, here is my guess on the image. Still needs work, but you get the ideal. mind sharing more details or a link where i can read up on the method? seems that i need to do some guesswork to get the right colors using this method.
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Sep 03, 2013 08:27 | #9 "Restoring" a clipped channel in PS: http://luminous-landscape.com …als/restore-clipped.shtml "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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DThompson Goldmember 4,059 posts Likes: 415 Joined Feb 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ky More info | Sep 03, 2013 11:45 | #10 the.forumer wrote in post #16263643 mind sharing more details or a link where i can read up on the method? There are different ways to accomplish replacing the info in a channel and this sounds more difficult than it actually is. Dennis
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tonylong ...winded More info | Sep 03, 2013 14:59 | #11 D Thompson wrote in post #16264310 There are different ways to accomplish replacing the info in a channel and this sounds more difficult than it actually is. In this case activate the Blue channel (the channel that needs fixing) and then Image/Apply Image. Choose the Red channel as source, blend mode Normal at 100%. Now activate the Red channel and Image/Apply Image. Choose the Red channel as source, blend mode Multiply at 80%. Now activate the Blue channel and Image/Apply Image. Use the Green channel as source and blend mode to Multiply at 100%. Activate the Red channel and Image/Apply Image. Use the Green channel as source and blend mode to Multiply at 85% (in the book she used 30%, but I found 85-90% worked better here). Now use a Curve or Level adjustment to set your white and black points. You can change the channels around if you need to rebuild another channel. Again, it’s not as difficult as it appears to use this method. ** Credit for this goes to Katrin Eismann from “Photoshop Restoration & Retouching” second edition. Check her book out, I’ve found it invaluable over the years. Good info, except the OP is asking about using LR (presumably Photoshop is not an option). Tony
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DThompson Goldmember 4,059 posts Likes: 415 Joined Feb 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ky More info | Sep 03, 2013 16:10 | #12 tonylong wrote in post #16264906 Good info, except the OP is asking about using LR (presumably Photoshop is not an option). He asked. the.forumer wrote in post #16263643 D Thompson wrote in post #16258489 I don't have LR, but there is a method using Apply Image in Photoshop that might help. I'm guessing your example is heavily cropped and/or underexposed a bit. Anyway, here is my guess on the image. Still needs work, but you get the ideal. mind sharing more details or a link where i can read up on the method? Dennis
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Sep 04, 2013 06:45 | #13 René Damkot wrote in post #16263801 "Restoring" a clipped channel in PS: http://luminous-landscape.com …als/restore-clipped.shtml In LR, chosing a different DNG profile can help, as well as altering dome other settings. Some idea's: http://www.getcolormanaged.com/lightroom/lightroom-blues/ Hi, thanks for your link!
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Sep 04, 2013 06:46 | #14 tonylong wrote in post #16264906 Good info, except the OP is asking about using LR (presumably Photoshop is not an option). yup - LR is most preferred.. failing which I'd have to fall back on PS (if that's the only way to restore the colors)..
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Sep 05, 2013 06:30 | #15 the.forumer wrote in post #16266791 is it as close as you can get in LR? Didn't try to go further, since IMO it should be red "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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