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Sep 02, 2013 23:10 |  #1

Hi All,

I need a new tripod head again as my old ball head will DRIFT with 5kg load despite it's load capacity is 22lb / 10kg on its specifications.

I'll like to order one from B&H (external link)

I would like the new ball head which will not drift within half its load capacity (22 lb / 10kg above). That's all.

I'm considering Manfrotto 468MGRC2 (external link), Arca-Swiss Monoball Z1 sp with Quick Release (external link) at this moment.

The Z1 sounds like a bit overkill for 5-10kg load, also possible clamp failure; 468MGRC2 may have 'problem with the cold' (from one of the user review)...

Any suggestion, please?

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Sep 02, 2013 23:48 |  #2

I LOVE my Z1, when you lock it down you know it's not going anywhere. :D

I got the version without a clamp and added an RRS screw clamp to it.

I wouldn't even consider a Manfrotto head if you have the budget for an Arca-swiss style clamp setup.


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Sep 03, 2013 00:01 |  #3

cbowlsby wrote in post #16263069 (external link)
I LOVE my Z1, when you lock it down you know it's not going anywhere. :D

I got the version without a clamp and added an RRS screw clamp to it.

I wouldn't even consider a Manfrotto head if you have the budget for an Arca-swiss style clamp setup.

Thanks,

Which RRS screw clamp and where you get it? RRS website directly?


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Sep 03, 2013 00:02 |  #4

Pay little attention to published specs about weight capacity...they are typically figments of an active marketing imagination to lure customers. There is ZERO testing standard so that you can directly compare any two published claims!

Arca, RRS, Markins, Linhof all make heads that meet professional expectations.


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Sep 03, 2013 00:10 |  #5

Wilt wrote in post #16263096 (external link)
Pay little attention to published specs about weight capacity...they are typically figments of an active marketing imagination to lure customers. There is ZERO testing standard so that you can directly compare any two published claims!

Arca, RRS, Markins, Linhof all make heads that meet professional expectations.

Thanks, Wilt!

So far seem everybody love their Arca, RRS, Markins, Linhof :)

Hate the lens drifting as positioning a shot.


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Sep 03, 2013 00:21 |  #6

x_tan wrote in post #16263093 (external link)
Which RRS screw clamp and where you get it? RRS website directly?

Got this Z1 from B&H: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_Monoball_Z1_sp​_with.html (external link)

And this clamp from RRS directly: http://reallyrightstuf​f.com …ith-1%2f4-20-screw&key=it (external link)

This video that someone else made with a different clamp illustrates the basic process of installation. http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=tfH-bM7FhSA (external link).

If you have any questions about getting the right clamp give RRS a call, they have superb customer service!


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Sep 03, 2013 00:45 |  #7

cbowlsby wrote in post #16263130 (external link)
Got this Z1 from B&H: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_Monoball_Z1_sp​_with.html (external link)

And this clamp from RRS directly: http://reallyrightstuf​f.com …ith-1%2f4-20-screw&key=it (external link)

This video that someone else made with a different clamp illustrates the basic process of installation. http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=tfH-bM7FhSA (external link).

If you have any questions about getting the right clamp give RRS a call, they have superb customer service!

Great, going to get one after work tonight :-)


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Sep 03, 2013 05:37 |  #8

Ok, just one more small problem:

Which plate to attach to the cameras' bodies (5D2 & 5D3) and the lenses (28-300L & 300L f/2.8 IS II)?

Can/should I get one of those 'universal' plate good for the camera bodies and those 'smaller scale' white monster lens as above instead? I can't find those 'universal plate' with RRS.


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Sep 03, 2013 08:06 |  #9

You don't necessarily need a RRS plate, if you buy a screw knob clamp it will connect securely with a myriad other plates. You can also buy a RRS lever clamp that self-adjusts to 3rd party plates. I use one and it works quite well. If you get a RRS clamp, make sure to ask for a metric 6 (M6) screw to go with it as the Arca-Swiss Z1 has an M6 socket in the ball stem.

You will also need an 11mm socket wrench to remove the round base from the top of the Z1.


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Sep 04, 2013 21:48 |  #10

Thanks Peter,

Just wonder if Wimberley system is good enough or not?

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …44+4291114603&s​rtclk=sort (external link)

If it's good enough, I'm going to order a C-12 clamp (external link), P-20 (external link) for 28-300L, P-30 (external link) for 300L as Wimberley Lens-Plate Reference Chart (external link).

Should I get a P5 (external link) or P10 (external link) for the 5D2/5D3 or not?


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Sep 05, 2013 01:38 |  #11
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I have a manfrotto 498rc2 and can heartily disrecommend it




  
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Sep 05, 2013 04:30 |  #12

NeonStar wrote in post #16269357 (external link)
I have a manfrotto 498rc2 and can heartily disrecommend it

A 300 2.8 will overwhelm the 498RC2 quite easily I should think.


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Sep 05, 2013 09:20 |  #13

NeonStar wrote in post #16269357 (external link)
I have a manfrotto 498rc2 and can heartily disrecommend it

You and quite a few others here I think.

x_tan wrote in post #16268925 (external link)
Just wonder if Wimberley system is good enough or not?

Can't help you there as I don't use a gimbal.


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Sep 05, 2013 12:48 |  #14

I have the Manfrotto 468MGRC2 minus the RC2 part on my old Giottos tripod. I have to say, after I retrofit a Kirk Arca Swiss compatible clamp on it, it worked much, much better. It does lock down easily and completely. The RC2 system is problematic, or was for me. I think that's where the droop/sag comes from. Both the plate to camera and the plate to clamp connection have tolerance issues. When I went to the Arca Swiss system, it almost completely eliminated the droop/sag.

That being said, my new RRS setup is worlds apart. The BH-55 Pro is such a pleasure to use. I'm guessing the Z1 would give similar results.


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Sep 05, 2013 12:56 |  #15

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_Ballhead_with_​Quick.html (external link)

i have the smaller version and I love it


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