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Sep 04, 2013 14:00 |  #1

Now that I finally added a few lights to my setup, I'd like to get a beauty dish. My question is should I get one for my 300 watt mono light Or for one of my speedlites? My main light will now be an 800 watt strobe with large octobox.

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Sep 04, 2013 14:22 |  #2

Kacey Enterprises makes one for both applications. He sells a speedlite and double speedlite bracket.


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Sep 04, 2013 14:52 |  #3

Thank you. I'm trying to get advice slightly more specific as well. Is it better to have the dish for a monolight or for a speedlite?


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Sep 04, 2013 14:58 |  #4

bugler wrote in post #16267922 (external link)
Thank you. I'm trying to get advice slightly more specific as well. Is it better to have the dish for a monolight or for a speedlite?

Monolight hands down. Better light distribution and more power


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Sep 04, 2013 15:05 |  #5

Its helpful if you can use the proper terminology for flashes, not watts but watt seconds or WS. Its one method of differentiating between strobes and continuous lights. That said the beauty dish would benefit more from the monolight.




  
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Sep 04, 2013 15:37 |  #6

Thank you for helping me clarify. It was my understanding that a monolight was always a strobe and that by saying 800 watts it would be understood ws. I'll be sure to get it right from now on when asking for advice.

That being said, I'll be going for the dish to work with my 300 ws strobe monolight. Thanks!


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Sep 04, 2013 15:44 |  #7

Aressem wrote in post #16267941 (external link)
Monolight hands down. Better light distribution and more power

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Sep 04, 2013 15:50 |  #8

bugler wrote in post #16268066 (external link)
Thank you for helping me clarify. It was my understanding that a monolight was always a strobe and that by saying 800 watts it would be understood ws. I'll be sure to get it right from now on when asking for advice.

That being said, I'll be going for the dish to work with my 300 ws strobe monolight. Thanks!

Lots of people buy ebay kits with lights some even called monolights because hell its ebay and fudging is the name of the game. I've even seen low powered flashes with large modeling lights called 500 watt flashes when its a 500 watt bulb attached to an 80 watt second flash.




  
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Sep 04, 2013 16:00 |  #9

windpig wrote in post #16268084 (external link)
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Aressem wrote in post #16267941 (external link)
Monolight hands down. Better light distribution and more power

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Sep 04, 2013 16:42 |  #10

gonzogolf wrote in post #16268101 (external link)
Lots of people buy ebay kits with lights some even called monolights because hell its ebay and fudging is the name of the game. I've even seen low powered flashes with large modeling lights called 500 watt flashes when its a 500 watt bulb attached to an 80 watt second flash.

After rereading my reply it could have been interpreted as hostile. That was not my intention. I do appreciate the clarification. I'm new here! But yeah, both of my lights that aren't speedlites are actual monolight strobes. 300 and 800 WS with modeling lights. The 300 has a small grid soft box and the 800 has a 60" octobox. I'll be adding a beauty dish for the 300 WS instead of my speedlites.


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Sep 04, 2013 16:43 |  #11

Now for the more technical questions. Is 22"the standard? Will that size be good for a 300 ws flash?


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Sep 04, 2013 16:51 |  #12

You'll have to determine if a speed ring will be available for the type of mount you have on the monolight you intend on using it on. As far as size, if you're shooting in studio, amount of power isn't that much of an issue. 22" is a nice size, IMHO.


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Sep 04, 2013 16:54 |  #13

It's a bowens. I believe they are available. It'll be in a very small studio also known as a "garage" :-P


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Sep 04, 2013 17:00 |  #14

I just got a 22" Fotodiox BD for a 300ws monolight about 5 days ago. 22" should be plenty big enough in a garage, and in fact, will go outside with you as well. With research you'll see that 22" is pretty common.
It is pretty large when you see it in person ;)


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Sep 04, 2013 17:21 |  #15

I'm not really seeing any bigger than 22". Is that around the bigger end of the BD size? Should I perhaps be looking smaller?

edit: After doing more research, I realize I should have done more research haha. Nevermind that question.


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