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Sep 08, 2013 11:06 |  #1

ok i recently got a 60d aniversary bundle and upgraded the lenses to a sigma 17-50 os ex and now a canon 70-200f4.i cant seem for the life of me get sharp shots like the ones posted on here,i will share my settings and a few samples if u like to try and help me,i took out the f4 yesterday with a polarizer and tripod and still couldnt get sharp shots,tried without the polarizer as well,then tried some close ups of bees and they looked incredible thru the viewfinder but not near as good on computer, my settings are as folows,

metering.evaluative ai focus,middle focus point,strong lighting optimizer,auto white balance mostly use faithful with sat up a notch or 2 and sharp up a notch or 2,also exposure comp up 2/3 i used the f4 with is amd without on tripod still not sharp when cropped,same results with sigma lens so im sure its me or my settings,any suggestions would be great,thanx so much


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Sep 08, 2013 11:23 |  #2

genesimmons wrote in post #16278669 (external link)
ok i recently got a 60d aniversary bundle and upgraded the lenses to a sigma 17-50 os ex and now a canon 70-200f4.i cant seem for the life of me get sharp shots like the ones posted on here,i will share my settings and a few samples if u like to try and help me,i took out the f4 yesterday with a polarizer and tripod and still couldnt get sharp shots,tried without the polarizer as well,then tried some close ups of bees and they looked incredible thru the viewfinder but not near as good on computer, my settings are as folows,

metering.evaluative ai focus,middle focus point,strong lighting optimizer,auto white balance mostly use faithful with sat up a notch or 2 and sharp up a notch or 2,also exposure comp up 2/3 i used the f4 with is amd without on tripod still not sharp when cropped,same results with sigma lens so im sure its me or my settings,any suggestions would be great,thanx so much

You don't tell us what you're trying to take picures of - aside from the closeups of bees you mention. Sports or landscape, portrait, kids. All will provide different answers.

AI focus is not one of Canons better inventions. Use One-Shot (if still subjects) or Servo (if moving). Using the center point is the right way to start off. Again depending on what you shoot that may force you to focus and recompose - but depending on what your shooting that may or may not be the case.

What are you doing in Post Processing? Most DSLR pictures need some sharpening and contrast fixed in post. Out of the camera may be softer than you expected.

Upload a photo here with EXIF intact for even more help.


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Sep 08, 2013 11:25 |  #3

Gene,

there is a number of causes for photos not to be sharp. Some can be fixed in ways easier than others.

a) Operator error: Using all AF points. Most of the time the camera will pick the closest contrasty subject to AF. Remedy: Start using the center AF point until you become more proficient with the AF system of your new camera.

b) Operator error: Using single AF point. Not realizing that the AF area is larger than your AF square in the VF. The camera picks a more contrasty subject which is a different distance from your ACTUAL subject.

c) Operator error: Camera shake. Shoot high speed, keep camera steady.

d) Operator error: Subject moves. Shoot higher speed/higher ISO if you have to.

e) Front/back focusing AF. Confirm that you can shoot a photo on tripod with Live View and have it sharp. There are methods to confirm this in more detail. We will get there when we have to. This may vary from lens-to-lens or not. Eventually the lens or lens/camera combo will have to be calibrated by the manufacturer(s).

f) Decentered lenses. Both of them? Highly unlikeley but it could happen. You can't get a sharp photo using Live View at 10x magnification. Phot appears fuzzy in portion of the frame or everywhere. Lens will have to be fixed by the manufacturer.

Give us some example shots, where there is detail from the near field to the far field (a grassy yard?).


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Sep 08, 2013 11:29 |  #4

Are you shooting RAW or jpg?
I would use standard with sharpness up a notch or 2 on standard if I were shooting jpg and didnt want to post process much.
I would turn off auto lighting optimizer.
Also, watch your minimum focus distance with bees. It can appear you are getting focus but you may be a bit too close.
Keep your shutter speed up about 1/400th or higher with wildlife and try to keep your ISO to 1600 or below. As for your aperture, I would run f5.6 on the 70-200 to help get more in focus than just a fine line.
Both of your lenses should help you produce great shots on the 60d. I regret ever selling mine.

Obviously there are other methods but these have worked well for me.



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Sep 08, 2013 11:46 as a reply to  @ jhayesvw's post |  #5

Bees?

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One thing I do is follow the Flickr links and look at the EXIF data to see what settings were used. In this case I was shooting 1/1000 sec wide open at f/5.6, auto ISO which the camera picked 400. This was handheld, does your 70-200 have IS?

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Sep 08, 2013 12:32 |  #6

Yep, I believe the OP mentioned bees....

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IMO, the most likely possibility, you are just too close, inside the lens' minimum focus distance (MFD)... You might not see this clearly in the viewfinder, since it's so small it might appear the shot is clear (but "focus confirmation" will tell you if the lens is able to focus).

The 70-200/4 (IS or non-IS version) minimum focus distance is about 4 feet (1.2M). All the above were shot with macro lenses, not a 70-200.

But your 70-200 can be made to focus closer, by adding a macro extension tube behind the lens....

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This black & yellow garden spider was shot with a 70-200/2.8 IS with 25mm macro extension tube added (and with fill flash and EOS-3, all on a tripod).

There are also "diopter" lenses that are added to the front of the lens, screwed in just like a filter, to make it focus closer. In the case of 70-200/4, the Canon 500D diopter in 67mm size would be one option. There is also the higher power 250D (the number refers to the distance from lens to subject). I am not a big fan of adding optics to the front of a lens unnecessarily, plus diopters are sort of lens-specific and quality ones - such as the Canon - work out to be rather expensive.

I choose to use macro extension tubes instead. I have some Canon and the Kenko set. The Kenko set for Canon is top quality and a good value at about $200... Canon's own tubes are same top quality, but only sell individually and are a little pricey... There are cheaper, some of which are okay... Others, not so much... The Opteka and Zeikos that sell for about $75-90 and have metal bayonet mounts are okay (both sell under a bunch of other brand names, too), just a little plasticky. The Zeikos also are offered even cheaper ($50-50), but area all plastic and not something I'd trust to support one of my lenses. The really cheap ones, under $25 for a set are not worth wasting your money on. Sure, they work, but they lack the electronic connections which makes them a pain in the arse, very slow and fiddly to use.

Other possible reasons for blur...

1. Too slow shutter speed. Camera shake and/or subject movement causing blur. Camera shake can be helped with an IS lens. But IS doesn't help with subject movement. Solutions: use a tripod, use a higher ISO to allow for higher shutter speed, or use a flash to add light allowing for a higher shutter speed (plus a flash, if it's the only light source, acts like a fairly fast shutter speed, common flashes are equiv. to approx. 1/720 shutter speed). Tripod doesn't help with subject movement either, only with camera shake. Most likely you'll end up using a combination of techniques. Close-up and macro at higher magnifications also magnify camera shake, requiring additional care with your steadying techniques.

2. Shallow depth of field. The closer you are, the shallower depth of field (DOF) will be. Also, the longer the focal length of the lens being use, and the larger the aperture being used will make DOF shallower. When it gets really, really shallow. See the Golden bee above, shot with a 180mm macro lens, the in-focus plane is only a couple mm deep. very precise focusing is necessary. For the busy bee on the orange poppy above, I probably took 75 images (with a 90mm macro lens) to get just a few that I was happy with, where the subject wasn't partially hidden or facing away from the camera and where the plane of focus fell correctly. Close-up photography is difficult and it takes practice!

3. Filters can actually cause more harm than good. Not sure the quality of what you are using, but you mention putting a polarizer on the lens. A lower quality filter can cause a lot of blur, plus flare from uncoated or single coated filters can lower contrast and loss of color saturation, as well as cause focusing errors. A polarizing filter, in particular, reduces the light passing through the lens by at least a stop and, at it's strongest setting, up to nearly two stops. That forces slower shutter speeds and/or higher ISOs. Slower shutter speeds = more risk of blur. Higher ISOs = more risk of noise and graininess in the image. Try to avoid filters unless necessary. Use the lens hood... it does a much better job protecting your lens and can never do any harm, can only enhance images and help focusing accuracy.

4. Focusing technique... I agree, best to use Single Point, manually selected, to put yourself in control where the camera focuses, and not leave it up to the camera to guess and choose for you. However, with 60D all 9 points are good, dual-axis type, so don't hesitate to use any of them. The center one is still more enhanced, but only with f2.8 and larger aperture lenses (so it won't matter with the 70-200 f4 lens).

When time allows, use Live View and zoom in to check focus. The focusing method used in Live View is actually the most accurate of all, but it's slow. Some Canon can do a quick focus in Live View, where the camera momentarily goes out of Live View, focuses using the standard AF array of sensors, then quickly goes back to Live View mode. It's still not as fast as using the viewfinder, though.

5. Maybe the image is sharper than you think... First of all, are you new to using a DSLR? Perhaps shooting RAW for the first time? Most of the time, especially if shooting RAW, DSLR images need some post-processing work to sharpen them and optimize them in other ways. Usually final sharpening is done after the image has been sized.

And, many computer monitors don't show how sharp images really are.... Especially if you zoom into the image a lot. On a standard monitor at the native settings, looking at a 60D image at 100% is like looking at a 5 foot wide print of the image from 18 inches away. It's okay to zoom way, way in when retouching, but try not to use more than 50% magnification when evaluating focus and sharpness.

EDIT: You are using the polarizer just the opposite of what's usually done... Most would use one with the landscape, but not with a sports/action shot. In the second shot, the polarizer would have significantly deepened the blue of the lake and the sky, making the clouds pop out more and the whole scene more dramatic.

Never heard of "Massa" brand, have no idea the quality. I use mostly B+W and Hoya filters, only use multi-coated, and even those I only use very sparingly.

There is nothing wrong with the sharpness in any of the images you posted, in the sizes shown here. You are shooting JPEGs (I can tell by the file numbering)... so are getting your images sharpened in the camera, for the large part.

Following the link for the skateboarder, that image is a mess in larger sizes. 1/640 was marginal shutter speed... between your movement tracking the subject and the subject's own movement, it probably wasn't fast enough. You used ISO 200... could easily have gone to 400 or 800 and gotten 2X or 4X the shutter speed, saving the day.

However, I'd have expected better even at 1/640... There is also overall lack of clarity throughout that image... I suspect may be due to the filter. I've never heard of "Massa" filters. Basic rule of thumb, if it cost less than maybe $60-75 for a 67mm polarizing filter, it's probably a crappy filter.
B+W's better quality is $95 (external link)

Hoya's DMC is also decent quality, and costs $69 (external link).

I've also heard good things about Marumi filters, a multi-coated one costs $90 (external link)in the size needed for your lens.

The scenic shots... with greater distance, you are shooting through more atmosphere. There can be heat haze, dust, fog, etc. all effecting the apparent sharpness of images. Not much you can do about that, other than be aware or it. A polarizer or even a UV filter might help a little, in this instance. But still, don't expect miracles. Wait for a clearer day to take the shot... or work with the distance/haze effects to make them part of your shot.

Just to be certain... you don't by any chance also have a "protection" filter on the lens, do you?

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Sep 08, 2013 12:35 as a reply to  @ Keyan's post |  #7

thanx so much for the quick replys,also sorry for the lack of info,i was mostly shooting landscapes and of the kids,also the bees and i tried some skateboard shots, heres a few shots, first is 200mm with is on handheld,second 70mmtripod and third is sigma handheld,ill try boosting the shutterspeed,i do think it was low on all shots,any tips is greatly appriciated thanx
also the polarizer was a massa brand circ polarizer,i believe it was off in the landcsape but on for the skateboarder,ill take the lens out today and get some more samples,thanx again for the tips so far,great info on here,this place is the best


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Sep 08, 2013 12:43 |  #8

those are incredible bee shots,thats what im looking for,thanx sooooo much for the great info,i will begetting a set of kenko ex tubes,they sound great,this site is a wealth of info,thanx for the detailed info
also yes my f4 has is and yes its the noisy is haha,i was horrified when i got the lens home and turned on is,


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Sep 08, 2013 12:45 as a reply to  @ genesimmons's post |  #9

heres my best bee shot,it looked much bigger and sharper in the veiwfinder though,no filter and no hood,handheld in the day,
i also cropped it and added a boost in color,its not out of camera,

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Sep 08, 2013 13:02 |  #10

These aren't that terrible...I think you are pixel peeping (zooming in to 100%) a little too much. The skateboard shot looks like it probably focused behind him on the graffiti.


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Sep 08, 2013 13:36 |  #11

I think the lens is fine. You just need to understand what to expect. The only shot that you might complain about is the skateboarder. From the Exif you shot at f4 (wide open) and 1/640. For a flying object you need a 1/800 to 1/1600 and a f5.6 and good AF technique to get there.

May I also suggest to get rid of the ALO (set it to off) and maybe not use faithfull, but also sharpen up to near max for the jpegs.


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Sep 08, 2013 13:53 |  #12

genesimmons wrote in post #16278874 (external link)
heres my best bee shot,it looked much bigger and sharper in the veiwfinder though,no filter and no hood,handheld in the day,
i also cropped it and added a boost in color,its not out of camera,

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Looks pretty good to me...

Why shoot without the lens hood? I virtually always use the hood! It's become such a habit for me, I'd feel lazy and foolish not using it. It can only help an image, can never harm it in any way.

When I got a Canon 10-22mm a few months ago, I tried using it without the hood. For that particular lens, the hood is large... think of a small Frisbee... making it a pain to pack in my camera bag. It's also shallow, so how much help can it possibly be? Plus, the 10-22mm is one of the most flare resistant ultrawide lenses made by anyone. So I set up a quick test to see if I could just leave the hood at home... First, I set up a shot without the hood where flare (which often can be an issue with wide angle lenses) has just begun to appear...

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Then I popped the hood on the lens and took another shot (same scene and angle, the clouds moved a little while I was adding the hood)....

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As you can see, the hood is effective... even a wide, shallow hood that's a pain to have to carry around. So I bite the bullet and use the hood pretty much all the time, just as I do with all my other lenses.

I only use filters when they serve a real purpose. And, a bit ironically I suppose, it's even more important to use a lens hood when using a filter, even tho it can be a bit of a pain when using a polarizer you have to turn to set. When using a filter, risk of flare is increased a lot, so the hood is needed even more.

Regarding your bee shot, which IMO turned out pretty darned well...

The most important EXIF data:

ISO 1600, 1/250 shutter, f4.5 aperture, no flash.

Also: Av with +2/3 stop E.C., Center Weighted metering, manually set White Balance.

You are already at ISO 1600 and can't really go higher without shooting RAW and doing some very careful post-processing work, probably with add'l software such as Noiseware. At 1600 ISO, I'm already starting to see a little loss of resolution and increased image granularity, but only in the larger versions on Flickr. Some noise reduction would help with the slight granularity, but there would also be some loss of fine detail along with it. Any NR would need to be handled very gently and probably best done after final image sizing (but before final sharpening).

f4.5 this close is going to give pretty shallow depth of field. It will only get shallower, if you add macro extension tubes and focus even closer.

You might have to add flash, to be able to use both a smaller aperture and a higher shutter, while not going too high with ISO.

And you will likely find your lens even sharper when stopped down a little (the 70-200/4 IS is pretty darned sharp wide open, though). Most lenses do better one or two stops down from wide open.

But you also have to watch the other extreme with the lens aperture... Use too small an aperture and you will see the effects of "diffraction", robbing fine detail from your images and making them look a little "soft" or "plasticky". The ideal aperture with an 18MP camera, and assuming an 8x10 print size, is f7.1... but I'll use f8 and even f11 without too much concern. Any diffraction effect at those is minor. (With a full frame camera's less crowded sensor, such as my 5DII which have half as many photo sites per square mm, the optimal is f10 and I'll use a bit smaller, f16).

1/250 shutter speed is marginal for a fast moving bee. Might be okay if you have a steady hand, the bee pauses on a flower like this, and there is no breeze moving the flower around. What I'd do in a case like this is set the camera to a high frame rate and take lots of shots, working hard to hold the camera steady.... Some of the images might show movement blur, but a few should be good.

It's a minor thing, but I notice the bee's "face" is mostly turned away from the camera. I'd have moved left just a little, to try to get more of its eye in the image.

It's less relevent here, but I'm not sure why you are using Center Weighted metering. I use Evaluative most of the time. It puts extra emphasis on the area right around the active AF point, which can be a little like spot metering the subject. If you like Center Weighted better, fine... but it's sort of an older style of metering, usually used for scenics. In some tough situations such as a strongly backlit subject, that's fairly close and filling much of the viewfinder, I find Evaluative Metering with the 63 zone iFCL metering system to be quite good. Better than Canon's older 35 zone metering, though both work fine in less "stenuous" situations.

+2/3 E.C. might be a wee bit more than necessary in many instances. I leave my cameras at +1/3 by default, then vary a little at times.

Manual White Balance.... Well I presume that means you set a Custom White balance using a neutral target. If so, that's good. If not, well you will get weird results a lot of the time. You'd be better leaving it set to Auto White Balance out in the sun or Cloudy if in the shade (but with Cloudy you still might need to "warm up" the image a bit later in post-processing).

Something to think about...

By shooting JPEGs, you are limited in how much "tweaking" you can do to an image after the fact. If you shot RAW instead, you could easily change the White Balance, would have more latitude to adjust exposure, and can choose your own sharpening settings after the fact, adjusted differently depending upon the final output size of the image. With RAW, if your first conversion doesn't work out, you can always go back and do it over again, changes you make are "non-destructive" and reversible. With JPEGs in-camera, if you don't make a copy and do all your work on the original file, then save it, any changes you make are set in stone and largely unreversible.

For example, you have the camera set to "Standard" scene profile. Shooting JPEGs in camera, you can't really change that later. With RAW you can more easily increase saturation, contrast, color balance, etc., etc.

It is possible to shoot RAW + JPEG... Yeah, that fills up your memory card faster, but you would have both types of files at your disposal later.

To shoot RAW only, you need a computer set up to support post-processing.... might need better than a "consumer grade" monitor, usually need to calibrate the monitor (there are hardware/software kits used to do that), and need to learn to use it all.

NOTE: Canon's file naming system tells you if an image is shot JPEG or RAW. Yours are "IMG_xxxx", indicating they were shot as JPEGs. If they were RAW, they would be named "_MG_xxxx". When you shoot RAW + JPEG, the two file names for any particular image correspond... there would be two files named IMG_1234 and _MG_1234, for example.

18MP camera such as the 60D gives you a lot of leeway to crop your images. For example, if you use only the center AF point to focus, your images will tend to all be centered... that can get sort of boring, some things just might look better off-center. Well you can crop it later.

Still, there's a limit to how much cropping you want to do. So it's always best, when you can, to select the AF point and work to "fill the viewfinder" with the subject as best you can.

By the way, shooting fast moving subjects, you might want to try an old sports photographer technique called Back Button Focusing (external link). The ability to do this with Canon cameras is one of the reasons that Canon became so dominant in sports photography for about ten years. Other camera makers have had to offer similar (and Image Stabilization) to catch back up with Canon. BBF is a handy technique with any sort of moving subject. It's a little like having the best of both world's: control over focus like we had when everything was manual focus, but with the speed and precision that's only possible with modern auto focus. Some people don't like BBF, or only use it in certain situations. I learned to use it many years ago and it's the only method I use 95% or more of the time now. (The other method I use a bit is Live View.)

By default, Canon cameras are set up with AF and all other functions tied to a half-press of the shutter release button. However this causes problems in some situations. BBF separates focusing (and IS start and metering start, though these are just secondary considerations) from the shutter release button. So you control AF with your thumb and take shots with your fore-finger. It sounds a lot more complex than it is, once learned and practiced a little. But, particulary if shooting moving subjects, you might want to give it a try. I shoot upwards of 2000 images some days and rarely have more than 20 or 30 where I miss focus (and it's usually my fault, not the camera's).

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Sep 08, 2013 19:22 as a reply to  @ amfoto1's post |  #13

So many variables - and many have been mentioned already. Keep one thing in mind - every piece of your kit is capable of taking fantastic images. Minor tweaks to various settings, shooting styles in any given situation will make a marked difference in final outcomes. I know with regard to my 7D, until I achieved the proper settings regarding the auto focus I really struggled with sharp sports event shots - now I'm fairly consisitent in achieving results I'm satisfied with - all it took was the proper settings for the situation at hand. I note you have the f/4 with IS. Not sure, and didn't notice it mentioned in browsing the replies, if you're using a tripod to make sure the IS on the lens is turned "off" as the IS will struggle with being mounted to a tripod and continually "search" for focus. Try and make the switch to shooting in RAW - much more versatility for post work. Regarding the skateboarder shot, I would be curious to see when opened with DPP where the actual focus point was - and what the focus point settings selected were...Also. what AF mode are you using - One Shot/AI Servo/AI Focus? I'll generally only use One Shot for Tripod shots of inaninmate subjects - nothing moves...otherwise everything else is set for AI Servo. Like I said - so many variables - but practice practice practice...you've got some great gear in your kit.


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Amphoto1, as is typical has presented very worthwhile information. Heed his advice!

I do see someone posting images of bees and commenting he (she) used "auto ISO." If you know anything about photography, disable this feature. Unless you constantly are watching what the camera selects, more often than not enabling this setting will get you in trouble.




  
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John from PA wrote in post #16279881 (external link)
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I do see someone posting images of bees and commenting he (she) used "auto ISO." If you know anything about photography, disable this feature. Unless you constantly are watching what the camera selects, more often than not enabling this setting will get you in trouble.

Keyan has the 60D and now the 70D. The implementation of auto-ISO in the 60D is flawless and works. The logic of selection is identical to any knowledgeable photographer's who is using the onboard lightmeter.

This kind of misinformation is propagated from bad experiences in other models ( like the 5DII, which had a notoriously bad implementation).

Let's not propagate it to two generations down the pike (assuming that 5DII>60D is one generation and 60D>70D is another).

I don't own the 70D, but I can't believe that Canon would screw up the newer implementation of auto-ISO, once it got it right in the 60D...


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