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So... how do you get the little blighters to stay still?

 
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Sep 17, 2013 17:34 |  #1

lol, well after chasing down I don't know how many bugs - or just waiting for something to come back (that never did) how do you guys get such up close and personal with our alien little friends?

Also as a side question right up until about ten minutes ago I had a lovely spider in the bath (now I've got toilet roll down so it can climb out) and was thinking of taking a few shots but they do tend to scurry away and was wondering if there were any tips that don't include freezing or killing that gets them to pose for a shot or two.

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Sep 17, 2013 17:45 |  #2

1) Don't breath on them
2) If they're in the sun, try not to let your shadow fall across them
3) Be slow and stealthy
4) Be patient; some bugs will fly away, but return to the same spot (dragonflies, robber flies, others)
5) They'll be slower in cool temperatures (early morning is good sometimes)
6) Some can be baited with fruit or honey and the like
7) Be lucky ;)

I'm sure there are many other things that folks will add.

If just going out and looking for subjects: Learn to watch for small movements. If you just sit and watch a patch of ground, or flowers, or the trunk of a tree, instead of moving your eyeballs around and searching, you may catch the slight movement of a jumping spider, or assassin bug, etc., that most folks wouldn't detect.


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Sep 17, 2013 19:06 |  #3

Superglue and hairspray :lol:


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Sep 18, 2013 02:20 |  #4

Those sound like great tips (well apart from the glue :)), now I wonder about house spiders, I guess you could catch them under a glass wait for them to get bored then lift the glass and hope?



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Sep 18, 2013 08:41 |  #5

John_N wrote in post #16305829 (external link)
Those sound like great tips (well apart from the glue :)), now I wonder about house spiders, I guess you could catch them under a glass wait for them to get bored then lift the glass and hope?

I've actually done that with spiders, scorpions, and a couple other bugs, and even a wasp. I sometimes use a large shallow box with dirt and rocks in it for a natural look, keep the critter under a glass for a while until it settles, then slowly lift the glass as you mentioned, and start shooting. Works well. If they start to scurry, use the glass again and wait. ;)


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Sep 18, 2013 08:42 |  #6

haha, excellent it was a guess :)

Now my wife will be thrilled - and so would a wasp be they do like her ;)

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Sep 30, 2013 12:38 |  #7

Heya,

I do a lot of insects. I have a few techniques. I do not use a flash. Ever. I use extension tubes ($50, Fotodiox Pro, has electric circuit for aperture control) on a 18-55mm EF-S cheap zoom lens. I do my shots both outdoors in natural sunlight, and indoors with constant lights (lamps).

Time of day: Insects are less likely to move much early in the morning. It's cooler temperature and they're going to be in a daze. If you move slowly, they won't even care that you're within 1~2" of them with a lens. During mid day when it's hot, they will scram before you're even within 4 feet. This simple knowledge will give you way more opportunities.

Understanding the bug: Some bugs move fast, some don't. Take a walk around your area where you want to shoot and see what kinds of bugs there even are there. This will help you understand what options you have. If you just run in circles after every single insect you see, you'll be missing the ones that are not moving and just watching you dance around. Don't chase flying insects. If you just casually go camp down in an area where the bugs keep swarming, like flowers, or a any food source, they will come to you naturally. They will be spooky of you first. But if you just hang out a while, they start caring that you're there and you can start getting shots.

Bait and/or Collect: I pick up dead insects. I find them under spider webs, cast away. I find them on the road, already rolled by a car. They are excellent subjects because they don't move ever. I take them inside, and pin them, and take photos with constant lamps. This lets me get my clearest images, with more control on focus and aperture for DOF since I don't do fancy stacking with a computer. Otherwise, bait your bugs. A little honey goes a long way! Dab some honey on some leaves or flowers or stems. Give it time. It will have guests showing up real fast. Works great for ants, flies, etc. Don't have honey? Mix some sugar in some water until it's real thick. Dab that on stuff. You'll attract bugs.

Move the camera, not the zoom: Set your zoom, if you have one. If using a prime lens, then just get it focused. On either lens, after you have it where you want it, focus it manually for your aperture setting for depth of field. Test this on any object until you get it just right for your shots. Once you have it, don't move it. Start just moving close to bugs and taking a shot. You focus by moving the camera, not the zoom. Practice this on a leaf in the sun or something. You'll figure out distances needed.

One last tip: You can get big grips to make it easier to hold the camera. I also use a shutter release remote, wired. It lets me hold the camera in one hand and move slowly, while holding the remote release with the other hand. This way I don't move the camera much when I take a photo, even when outside, because I'm not sacrificing grip stability when trying to hit the shutter button. The remote release helps me remove that and then I get more steady shots and I'm more likely to get my subject in the center of the lens.

Focus: Get used to not seeing your subject in the view finder, or on a screen. You can use a screen better if you're using one, but kiss your battery goodbye, and also note that in the sunlight if doing this outside, you're not seeing much anyways on those screens. Just get the idea of how far your lens needs to be from an object to get it in focus. Get some memory built up of that distance. Then simply move close to your subject and start snapping photos. Some of them will be keepers, some will be out of focus. If your'e inside, and you can see your screen, then by all means, focus properly and take your time. But in the field, you don't have that time usually and depending on the light or the bug, you may only have a second or two to really take some shots.

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