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Sep 19, 2013 12:42 |  #1

Hopefully someone can help...

Has anyone gone from the version 1 to the version 2 of this lens and used both 1.4 and 2.0 teleconverters? How did the performance compare? I accept that the focus speed will slow.

I suppose my question is this......if you plan on using teleconverters, does the version 2 300 2.8 perform noticeably better than the version 1?

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Sep 19, 2013 13:10 |  #2

I upgraded from Mk I to Mk II. There are 3 things that I consider its worth the upgrade and IQ is not one of them since both lenses produce stunning pics and I could hardly see the difference.

1) The most important thing for me is weight reduction since I like to shoot hand held and always carry it when I'm hiking.
2) 4 stop IS. I like to go inside the forest when I'm hiking so instead of boosting the ISO I can reduce the shutter speed and get good results.
3) IS mode 3. I kinda like this feature, and almost always use this mode especially for birding.

I have used 1.4X & 2X TCs mk 2 for my 300mm mk1 and to be honest with 1.4X it still focused quite fast and IQ was good, but with 2X both speed and IQ were degraded significantly.

I only tried 1.4X mk2 with 300mm mk2 never with 2X TC. With 1.4TC mk 2, my 300mm mk2 performed better than mk1.

I think with 300mm MK2 you should use TC MK III, I heard both 1.4X & 2X TCs MK III perform very well with new version of telephoto lenses


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Sep 19, 2013 13:29 |  #3

2loose wrote in post #16309425 (external link)
I think with 300mm MK2 you should use TC MK III, I heard both 1.4X & 2X TCs MK III perform very well with new version of telephoto lenses

This is what I have read. Trying to justify the 2k (sterling) extra is the problem.


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Sep 19, 2013 13:44 |  #4

nellyle wrote in post #16309474 (external link)
This is what I have read. Trying to justify the 2k (sterling) extra is the problem.

Can't you get used one? For me the extra cash that I spent is worth it for 3 things that I mentioned earlier. If you use mostly with monopod/tripod, then just stick with 300mm MK1 and buy TC MK III.


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Sep 19, 2013 15:00 |  #5

Now that the refurb warranty is 1yr and Canon has the mkii listed in stock(last time checked) I might make the upgrade sooner than I thought I would. Although the savings isn't all that much, it's not like used mkii's are cheap if/when you can find one.

I'd mainly want the upgrade for the reduced weight(for when I'll be caring it around all day/weekend) and improved IS. The fact that there is slight improvement in IQ and performance while using TCs is welcome but not something that has been an issue for me.

I've been nothing but impressed with how well my mki works with both the 1.4 and 2x. The hit with the 1.4x is hardly noticeable and although the 2x is much more noticeable I feel I get results as good if not better than say a long zoom( in both IQ and AF). I recently picked up a mkiii 2x and in realworld shots didn't notice any improvement, actually when I first tried it out anything that was out toward infinity focus(including static objects) looked bad but things toward MFD were fine(not sure what was going on but it seems to be fine now).




  
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Sep 20, 2013 05:42 as a reply to  @ lovemyram4x4's post |  #6

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Works great with the 1.4 III, AF is stellar as usual. Those birds are quite fast!!! Tested even on the 400D, no problem.
Yeah the new IS II it's amazing, but the price difference is HUGE.. u could invest in tripod + gimbal as well, and still got some left..

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Sep 20, 2013 07:18 |  #7

I used my 300 with TCs most of the time. (ver.1) The autofocus slowed a bit but I got fabulous results. I wish I could have afforded to keep it, and never considered upgrading to the ver.2.


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Sep 20, 2013 08:01 |  #8

Tapeman wrote in post #16311192 (external link)
I used my 300 with TCs most of the time. (ver.1) The autofocus slowed a bit but I got fabulous results. I wish I could have afforded to keep it, and never considered upgrading to the ver.2.

Thanks for the responses so far.

Quick question, was that with the mkii or iii converters?

I;m steering towards the mki of the 300, mainly as it means I can add another lens with the cash saved.


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Sep 20, 2013 08:13 |  #9

I was using the MK II converters at the time. I now have the MK III converters and the 1.4x is about the same, but the 2x is noticeably better.


Canon G1X II, 1D MKIV, 5DSR, 5DIV, 5D MKII, 16-35/2.8L II, 24-70/2.8L II, 70-200/2.8L IS II, IS, 100-400/4.5-5.6 L IS II, 500/4 L IS II, 24-105/4 IS, 50/2.5 macro, 1.4x MKII, 1.4X MKIII, 2X MKIII,580EX II, 550EXs(2), ST-E2.
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Sep 24, 2013 04:56 |  #10

I have 300L IS Mk1 and 1.4X mk2 and mk3. Also 2x mk3 and sigma. Previuosly had 2X mk2, it was big difference 2x mk2 vs 2x mk3. but got that 2x sigma (http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_876101_2x_EX_D​G_APO.html (external link)) almost for free, and it beats Canons 2X III by miles ... I can't understand why ...




  
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Sep 26, 2013 20:59 as a reply to  @ Shift7's post |  #11

Before I sold my 300mm f2.8 is version one I almost always used a 2x extender iii on the lens. I found the focus to be fine and the sharpness to be great. I didn't post a lot of photos to my fliker, but here are some examples:

Eastern Kingbird
Shot from a kayak in pretty rough water when the sun was going down.

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Baby Mallard Duck
During a break in a rainstorm (really cloudy and dull light).
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100% crop

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Sep 27, 2013 01:21 |  #12

Thanks, they're impressive!


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