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Feb 07, 2015 12:40 |  #9226

How can a camera be both full frame and crop?


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Feb 07, 2015 13:45 as a reply to  @ Jill-of-all-Trades's post |  #9227

It's all in software/firmware. Depending on the configuration you set it'll either shoot and record the full 24 mm x 36 mm sensor area, a 19 x 27 mm area from the center (1.3x crop - same size as the 1D series sensors) or a 15 x 22.5 mm area from the center for the 1.6x crop. Nikon's offered that (well, FF or 1.5x crop) in a couple of their models.


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Feb 07, 2015 13:58 |  #9228

Why would you do that? Couldn't you just crop the picture in post and get the same result?


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Feb 07, 2015 14:00 |  #9229

Jill-of-all-Trades wrote in post #17420394 (external link)
Why would you do that? Couldn't you just crop the picture in post and get the same result?

Image size. When you don't need the full sensor data, it allows you to shoot and generate much smaller images.


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Feb 07, 2015 14:29 |  #9230

That makes sense. I guess 50 mp is too much of a good thing.


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Feb 07, 2015 16:26 |  #9231

It's something like a full frame sensor with the same pixel density as the 7D2. Now if they gave you a speed boost with the smaller image files (like Nikon does . . .) they might sell me on it now, rather than later.


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Feb 07, 2015 18:30 |  #9232

It's hockey night in this town!

A friend got free tickets to the Sarnia Legionnaires game tonight. Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League, playing against the Leamington Flyers, in the old Brock Street Barn. We're up 1-0 half way through the first.


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Feb 07, 2015 20:08 |  #9233

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Doesn't that happen with every new body announcement?

Yep....it sure does. Whatever comes out, is never enough.


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Feb 07, 2015 21:55 |  #9234

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Yep....it sure does. Whatever comes out, is never enough.

Maybe we should start being "proactive" - whenever Canon announces a new body/lens/flash/whatev​er, just post a quote of a typical pre-acquisition post about generation x-1! :{)#


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Feb 07, 2015 23:58 |  #9235

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Feb 08, 2015 08:51 |  #9236

Jill-of-all-Trades wrote in post #17420323 (external link)
How can a camera be both full frame and crop?

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It's all in software/firmware. Depending on the configuration you set it'll either shoot and record the full 24 mm x 36 mm sensor area, a 19 x 27 mm area from the center (1.3x crop - same size as the 1D series sensors) or a 15 x 22.5 mm area from the center for the 1.6x crop. Nikon's offered that (well, FF or 1.5x crop) in a couple of their models.

Jill-of-all-Trades wrote in post #17420394 (external link)
Why would you do that? Couldn't you just crop the picture in post and get the same result?

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Image size. When you don't need the full sensor data, it allows you to shoot and generate much smaller images.

I guess that would be cool, especially for those using the limit of their long lenses for birding or wildlife, who end up cropping quite a bit. It would come in handy with my 150-600. For those who crop their macro shots to get closer closer-up, too.

And Instead of having your, let's say 70-200 FOV on a FF, or 112-320 FOV on a crop, you could use it as a 70-320. I wonder if you could set a button (through custom functions) to quickly switch back and forth between crop and FF, without having to go through the menu each time.

It would give you the perception of a wider range on your typical walk-around lens.


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Feb 08, 2015 10:25 |  #9237

It would be really nice if it would take EF-S lenses as well. One of the reasons I have not sold the 7D is because of the 17-55. That lens rocks.


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Feb 08, 2015 10:34 |  #9238

gjl711 wrote in post #17421672 (external link)
It would be really nice if it would take EF-S lenses as well. One of the reasons I have not sold the 7D is because of the 17-55. That lens rocks.

The same way I feel about my EF-S 10-22 and 40D. But it's good to have a back-up body, or one for the wife/SO to use if you're both shooting at the same time.


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Feb 08, 2015 11:28 |  #9239

I have no ef-s lenses but that would be awesome.


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Feb 08, 2015 13:18 |  #9240

LV Moose wrote in post #17421690 (external link)
The same way I feel about my EF-S 10-22 and 40D. But it's good to have a back-up body, or one for the wife/SO to use if you're both shooting at the same time.


I sold it, but I miss my EF-S 10-22. I could shoot with it down to 12mm on my 1DIV, but @10-11mm the mirror would hit the back of the 10-22 lens. I suspect using an EF-S lens on a 5Ds body will be a mechanical, not a sensor, issue. I guess part of it depends on how different the new mirror mechanical works in the 5Ds bodies.



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