Red Ring Tupperware Party, Autumnal Equinoctal Edition (24)

Harm wrote in post #17492840
interesting you say that, Tim. I wonder if CA will start to allow desal plants. Sure it will be costly and noisy in some areas, but at least you will have water, without having to dry out your well.

There is one being built in Carlsbad by San Diego.

http://www.sacbee.com …ought/article30​17597.html


Another is being proposed for Marin County north of SF, but the environmental folks are fighting it just like they did the Carlsbad project.

Timphoto wrote in post #17493030
There is one being built in Carlsbad by San Diego.

http://www.sacbee.com …ought/article30​17597.html

Another is being proposed for Marin County north of SF, but the environmental folks are fighting it just like they did the Carlsbad project.

they will fight until there is no water left, then what will the environmentalists do?

Harm wrote in post #17493033
they will fight until there is no water left, then what will the environmentalists do?

Die first.

People are nuts.

Harm wrote in post #17493033
they will fight until there is no water left, then what will the environmentalists do?

As the article points out, there are costly issues with the desal approach. As you no doubt know in your line of work, EPA emission requirements can have significant cost impacts.

The cost vs. benefit vs. environmental damage equation is going to be a much larger part of our lives. I'm confident we can solve these problems, but it promises to be a challenging debate in order to achieve sustainable solutions.

BearLeeAlive wrote in post #17492600
Have you slapped a moose today?

Harm wrote in post #17492602
I haven't planned on it

Well that's nice to hear.

gjl711 wrote in post #17492642
Is Moose slapping a euphemism for some other activity?

Not that I'm aware of. Of course I'm not the freak some folks here take me for.

I guess "slapping the moose" could be akin to "spanking the monkey."

Just got done processing a batch from a Valley of Fire visit a couple days ago. This is the Fire Wave:

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Woolburr wrote in post #17487488
Doesn't anyone else get bored with every shot trying to look exactly the same?

IMAGE LINK: http://www.frogdawg.co​m/p475263328/e12d5cc5b

I've never been bored with your pictures.

As the weather gets nicer I find myself exercising more because I can get outside. During the cold months, I've never been good at inside exercising either at home or at a gym.

Timphoto wrote in post #17493062
As the article points out, there are costly issues with the desal approach. As you no doubt know in your line of work, EPA emission requirements can have significant cost impacts.

The cost vs. benefit vs. environmental damage equation is going to be a much larger part of our lives. I'm confident we can solve these problems, but it promises to be a challenging debate in order to achieve sustainable solutions.

absolutely, it is very, very expensive, and there is an environmental cost, but if people upstream from CA start using the water first, or even if that amount of water is greatly reduced, there will be some severe repercussions to CA.

i am just asking the question, but when was california last in a drought free period?

Timphoto wrote in post #17492763
How many golf courses are still watered by clean drinking water rather than treated wastewater?

You can thank the NIMBYs for that one. San Diego has a fully functioning wastewater reclamation plant that produces pure water from sewage. The water coming out of the plant is actually purer thatn the water Southern California draws from the Colorado River. Unfortunately, someone dubbed it "toilet-to-tap" and the opposition just blossomed.

Harm wrote in post #17493429
i am just asking the question, but when was california last in a drought free period?

Southern California is a desert. There isn't a time when we aren't in a drought of some kind. It's just that some are more severe than others.

What we really should be doing instead of building oil pipelines is building pipelines to move water from those ares that have a surplus to those areas that need it.

It's snowing here

JWright wrote in post #17493443
What we really should be doing instead of building oil pipelines is building pipelines to move water from those ares that have a surplus to those areas that need it.

I've been thinking that for years. We're sucking Lake Mead dry, which also fills from the Colorado river. And yet the powers that be want to keep growing Las Vegas. I don't get it.

JWright wrote in post #17493443
You can thank the NIMBYs for that one. San Diego has a fully functioning wastewater reclamation plant that produces pure water from sewage. The water coming out of the plant is actually purer thatn the water Southern California draws from the Colorado River. Unfortunately, someone dubbed it "toilet-to-tap" and the opposition just blossomed.

we would call that "gray water", which can be used for power plants and industry, since that water would have to be purified even further before use...

that would free up what meagre river water is left for residential use...

JWright wrote in post #17493443
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What we really should be doing instead of building oil pipelines is building pipelines to move water from those ares that have a surplus to those areas that need it.

I never understood why that has not been done. Every year the Mississippi floods devastating some areas. Dallas is not that far from the Mississippi. It would be very possible to run a couple 4 foot pipes out there and pump the water into the local lakes.

gjl711 wrote in post #17493486
I never understood why that has not been done. Every year the Mississippi floods devastating some areas. Dallas is not that far from the Mississippi. It would be very possible to run a couple 4 foot pipes out there and pump the water into the local lakes.

well they have those mega mega pipes in china that run water north to the almost desert like beijing now....

http://www.theatlantic​.com …roject-in-history/284300/

gjl711 wrote in post #17493486
I never understood why that has not been done. Every year the Mississippi floods devastating some areas. Dallas is not that far from the Mississippi. It would be very possible to run a couple 4 foot pipes out there and pump the water into the local lakes.

I'm sure the tree huggers would find some reason to take offense to that idea.

I think it would be great to be able to move water away from flood areas. When the Mississippi is gonna flood in the north, suck out the water in the south. Flow rate would rise but it should keep the flood levels down.