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Jul 01, 2015 09:03 |  #10801

The setup I've seen that seems ideal is a pelican case strapped to the hull right in front of you. Easy to secure the camera, but easy to get it out. Not all kayaks would work that way, but the kayak I want would.


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Jul 01, 2015 09:28 |  #10802

What about the other stuff, tents, coolers, etc. It seems that you almost need another tow behind kayak for the rest of the stuff.


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Jul 01, 2015 09:46 |  #10803

You'd have to go minimalist. Dry food that doesn't need a cooler, compact tent, no air mattress, etc.


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Jul 01, 2015 09:55 |  #10804

I'm thinking the canoe is more practical. We have lots of little rivers that sort of weave all over with parks scattered around. Always wanted to paddle up stream, camp out and come back down stream the next day. We've looked at a few kayaks but all are too space limited.


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Jul 01, 2015 10:04 |  #10805

If there's two of you to paddle, and you want to go more than minimalist, a canoe makes sense. They are a lot more versatile.

I want to get a kayak. I much prefer a kayak over a canoe, and I would typically be heading out alone. I'd love to go interior camping, but I'd have to revamp my gear.


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Jul 01, 2015 11:04 |  #10806

Jill-of-all-Trades wrote in post #17616484 (external link)
Teddy! So soft and fluffy!!

Makes you want to pet him, eh? :)

My wife was a bit apprehensive in the front of the kayak, but my brother had a good friend's wife in the front of his kayak, and she was extremely terrified, though he did a great job of keeping her somewhat calm by staying just back from us.

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How do you keep your equipment dry on a kayak? We have been wanting to get either a canoe or a kayak but the canoe looks more practical from being able to lug things around. The kayaks I have seen have almost no ability to hold anything.
This is the one we have been looking at. Saw it at Bass Pro for almost 1/3 of the suggested price.
http://www.oldtowncano​e.com …ation/discovery​_sport_15/ (external link)

I do use Pelican cases. I have a couple depending on what gear I take, the 1610 and 1400. The one I used just barely held the 7D II with the 100-400, as well as the 5D II with the 24-105 (or 17-40) on it. Often, I will just bring the 5D II, with a few lenses if I don't expect great wildlife ops, as shooting long shots from a rocking boat is a bit challenging at times.

My preference by far is a canoe, as they can hold a lot more gear, with the gear more readily accessible. As well, I find them a lot more comfortable. I still do a couple multi-day canoeing trips every year.

For the longer trips, one must pack smartly. For 3 day trips we will take a small cooler with a bit of fresh food, but most of our food is dehydrated before we leave, as it lasts longer, and weighs less too.

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What about the other stuff, tents, coolers, etc. It seems that you almost need another tow behind kayak for the rest of the stuff.

The kayaks we were in when I took these shots were very small, just meant for paddling about, not tripping in. They had 3 aboard the 95' yacht that 8 of us chartered for this trip.

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I'm thinking the canoe is more practical. We have lots of little rivers that sort of weave all over with parks scattered around. Always wanted to paddle up stream, camp out and come back down stream the next day. We've looked at a few kayaks but all are too space limited.

Canoes will work good for this. What many do with smaller rivers is to pole the canoe. Much better for making distance upstream. A long, light pole approximately 10-12 feet long is used. I have never tried this myslef, but sure would like to. Most of the rivers around here are way to big to do this, so we just paddle downstream, and shuttle back up. :)


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Jul 01, 2015 11:06 |  #10807

You can sort of get the idea here with our packing, though there is some gear behind me, as well as the camera gear and a day bag at my feet. Even room for Jasper too. :)

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Jul 01, 2015 11:19 |  #10808

BearLeeAlive wrote in post #17616918 (external link)
You can sort of get the idea here with our packing, though there is some gear behind me, as well as the camera gear and a day bag at my feet. Even room for Jasper too.

Yea, that's what I'm looking to do.


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Jul 01, 2015 11:20 |  #10809

BearLeeAlive wrote in post #17616915 (external link)
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Canoes will work good for this. What many do with smaller rivers is to pole the canoe. Much better for making distance upstream. A long, light pole approximately 10-12 feet long is used. I have never tried this myslef, but sure would like to. Most of the rivers around here are way to big to do this, so we just paddle downstream, and shuttle back up. :)

I have poled a canoe before and it does work well especially in rivers that are very shallow.


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Jul 01, 2015 13:02 |  #10810

BearLeeAlive wrote in post #17616918 (external link)
You can sort of get the idea here with our packing, though there is some gear behind me, as well as the camera gear and a day bag at my feet. Even room for Jasper too. :)

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I think I've seen it before, but I just love that shot. Looks like a fantastic day out in the wild.



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Jul 01, 2015 13:08 |  #10811

super super, Jim, oh and happy canada day to you & mel.

so the question is.....

is that the finished canoe that you were supposed to have built a few years ago?


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Jul 01, 2015 13:22 |  #10812

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I think I've seen it before, but I just love that shot. Looks like a fantastic day out in the wild.

This is a different shot than I shared before, but a similar one, in near the same spot.

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super super, Jim, oh and happy canada day to you & mel.

so the question is.....

is that the finished canoe that you were supposed to have built a few years ago?

Thanks, Harm.

and the answer (still) is.....

nope..... :)

I will posts pics when I do bring it from the rafters to finish. ;)


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Jul 01, 2015 16:39 |  #10813

gjl711 wrote in post #17616710 (external link)
How do you keep your equipment dry on a kayak? We have been wanting to get either a canoe or a kayak but the canoe looks more practical from being able to lug things around. The kayaks I have seen have almost no ability to hold anything.
This is the one we have been looking at. Saw it at Bass Pro for almost 1/3 of the suggested price.
http://www.oldtowncano​e.com …ation/discovery​_sport_15/ (external link)

I used and inflatable kayak for some time... I'd put my photo gear in waterproof "bags" (I don't remember the brand names in in ziplock bags inside them if I wasn't actively shooting...

That being said, I didn't use the kayak for camping out, although I was working up the energy to do so until my plans got "scuttled"...

I only had one incident with a kayak. It was "humorous", but I didn't have photo gear with me:

I used to go white water rafting with a group of friends...we'd camp out for two or three days and hit the river that had good rapids, with inflatable rafts, holding five of us so we could hit a rapid "properly" with several of us paddling to navigate things!

But in our "off" days, some of us would get out in kayaks, navigating the same rapids but in a way that avoided the "tougher" spots...

That is, until I was kayaking (using the "buddy system", a friend was nearby) and I came upon a spot where the river was flowing over a big rock. It actually had a nickname to us rafter, "Oh Sh*t Rock", because if you came to it with a raft, you had to have your paddlers paddling like crazy to get over the rock and past it without getting sucked in by the falling water...

Well, in my kayaking adventure I forgot things, I looked at the water flowing over the rock and just figured "Hey, that looks easy", and paddled to and over that rock...and the next thing I knew, I got tossed over and into the swell, I was tossed out of the kayak and into the churning water, kind of like being tossed into an high-power washing machine...

I did manage to pull myself out. fortunately my "buddy" saw what happened and managed to rescue my kayak and paddle, so I worked down to a meeting place, got my stuff, and the day went on!

Fortunately, I can smile about the experience, although I've seen some rough experiences with both kayakers and rafters tackling the white water!

It brings up a story about body surfing some rough waves following an Asian storm, but that's another story! :)


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Jul 01, 2015 23:00 |  #10814

It is always depressing to see a company renew a job posting that you've interviewed for. On May 22nd I interviewed at the local Toyota dealership, they are desperate for another licensed technician. Yesterday the job posting was renewed again. And they've upped the offer, including a signing bonus now. I just sent off an email to the manager, just a note saying that I'm still available, and a thank you if I'm not under consideration anymore.
Wonder what kind of response I'll get. Part of me wants to know why I haven't been hired, but part of me doesn't want to hear a refusal.


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Jul 02, 2015 09:01 |  #10815

Companies can be so schizophrenic some times. I received a rejection notice from a company I had applied at 4 months after I had been hired. Seems that the communications between HR and the hiring managers sometimes get mixed up.


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