5D 3 vs 7d?

jonathanheierle wrote in post #16322173
downhill biking, people racing going 35-40mph around turns and off jumps

So mostly day time so I would pick 1dmk4 with its higher fps.

BTW - Your 7d can do all that, unless need another toy.

so hard to choose! haha I like the big full frame, professional look of the 1D Mark IV but the 5D 3 is also an AMAZING camera, the 1D is about 3-400 more used than the 5D 3 i guess it boils down to what your shooting, I'll most likely end up considering the camera that has a higher fps and more focus points

I am going through same thing here. had 5dmk3, then had to sell it. Got 6d, no that good for sports so picking up 5dmk3 or 1dmk4. I should say just picked 5dmk3 but want to try 1dmk4 also as sometimes I could use higher fps. AF on 5dmk3 is superb. First non 1 series which is better than so many 1 series cameras.

bobbyz wrote in post #16322309
I am going through same thing here. had 5dmk3, then had to sell it. Got 6d, no that good for sports so picking up 5dmk3 or 1dmk4. I should say just picked 5dmk3 but want to try 1dmk4 also as sometimes I could use higher fps. AF on 5dmk3 is superb. First non 1 series which is better than so many 1 series cameras.

so hard to decide right? i wish i could just say **** it and get both haha

....oh dear another 5DIII vs 7D thread..I've talked about this subject enough now and have got this down pat....

I have owned the 7D and now have the 5DIII. The 7D is an excellent camera, but the 5DIII is much, much better camera.

Heres why...

Noise - 7D has frustratingly high noise from around 400 ISO and anything above that it gets much worse.

I can get great images at 1,000 ISO but can't get anywhere near that with the 7D. This was the main reason I upgraded.

AF - 5DIII is far superior in every aspect. 7D can be a bit hit and miss.

Low light - 5DIII is far superior and captures better detail in shadows.

Portraits - 5DIII produces sharper images and has an improved keeper rate.

In short if you have the money get the 5DIII, if not get the 7D. I hope this helps.

Lone Rider wrote in post #16322317
....oh dear another 5DIII vs 7D thread..I've talked about this subject enough now and have got this down pat....

I have owned the 7D and now have the 5DIII. The 7D is an excellent camera, but the 5DIII is much, much better camera. Heres why...

Noise - 7D has frustratingly high noise from around 400 ISO and anything above that it gets much worse.

I can get great images at 1,000 ISO but can't get anywhere near that with the 7D. This was the main reason I upgraded.

AF - 5DIII is far superior in every aspect. 7D can be a bit hit and miss.

Low light - 5DIII is far superior and captures better detail in shadows.

Portraits - 5DIII produces sharper images and has an improved keeper rate.

In short if you have the money get the 5DIII, if not get the 7D. I hope this helps.

it does help alot, If i had the money id drop the 7D right now and go buy a 5DIII but even 2800 used is way way, way too much for me right now, is the IQ significantly better?

jonathanheierle wrote in post #16321368
I know the 5d will copmletely blow the 7d out of the water without a doubt, but does the 7d have ANY kind of advantage over the 5d3? other than being smaller and lighter of course

I own both and regularly use both. I tend to use the 7D for the faster frame rate for birds in flight for example, or when I am shooting wildlife with my 100-400mm because the crop gives me a bit more reach. Anytime I am going to have to raise the ISO beyond 800 (and the 7D can be spotty at ISO 800) I reach for the 5D3. The 5D3 with 61 AF points also focuses much quicker and more accurately I find than does the 7D with 19 AF points. Anytime that focus is critical then I reach for the 5D3.

I disagree that one body blows the other out of the water, both bodies have their strengths and I have no plans at this point to get rid of the 7D, it has been a fantastic camera for me and rarely lets me down.

Chiefy wrote in post #16322339
I own both and regularly use both. I tend to use the 7D for the faster frame rate for birds in flight for example, or when I am shooting wildlife with my 100-400mm because the crop gives me a bit more reach. Anytime I am going to have to raise the ISO beyond 800 (and the 7D can be spotty at ISO 800) I reach for the 5D3. The 5D3 with 61 AF points also focuses much quicker and more accurately I find than does the 7D with 19 AF points. Anytime that focus is critical then I reach for the 5D3.

I disagree that one body blows the other out of the water, both bodies have their strengths and I have no plans at this point to get rid of the 7D, it has been a fantastic camera for me and rarely lets me down.

I came the 60D which is only like 8AF points so that 7D is a big step up to me haha, I've never shot th 5D3 but coming from a 7D i feel it would be godly with 61 AF points

jonathanheierle wrote in post #16322184
what about a 1D IV and 7D?

A 5D3 gives you a full frame sensor, while the 1D IV is still a 1.3x crop. Also, the 1D IV is a lot bigger camera, which would mean even more bulk if you want to carry both cameras in your bag.

I am able to fit a 5D3, 7D, 17-40L, 24-105L, 100-400L and 40mm f/2.8 pancake, plus filters and other accessories, in a Lowepro Flipside 400AW backpack that fits in the smaller overhead bin of a small, regional airplane.

I've never been one to use a grip on my cameras, though, because I do not want the added bulk. So, take my comment with that in mind.

Scott M wrote in post #16322906
A 5D3 gives you a full frame sensor, while the 1D IV is still a 1.3x crop. Also, the 1D IV is a lot bigger camera, which would mean even more bulk if you want to carry both cameras in your bag.

I am able to fit a 5D3, 7D, 17-40L, 24-105L, 100-400L and 40mm f/2.8 pancake, plus filters and other accessories, in a Lowepro Flipside 400AW backpack that fits in the smaller overhead bin of a small, regional airplane.

I've never been one to use a grip on my cameras, though, because I do not want the added bulk. So, take my comment with that in mind.

wait the 1d Iv is a cropped sensor?? I have a dakine mission photo backpack

I just picked up a 6D to complement my 7D. Vacations & family stuff- 6D. Racetracks- 7D.

jonathanheierle wrote in post #16322206
so hard to choose! haha I like the big full frame, professional look of the 1D Mark IV but the 5D 3 is also an AMAZING camera, the 1D is about 3-400 more used than the 5D 3 i guess it boils down to what your shooting, I'll most likely end up considering the camera that has a higher fps and more focus points

The 1D4 is not full frame, but is yet another crop body....

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16322954
The 1D4 is not full frame, but is yet another crop body....

What???? i did NOT know that! haha

jonathanheierle wrote in post #16322919
wait the 1d Iv is a cropped sensor?? I have a dakine mission photo backpack

Yes.. 1.3x. So, midway between APS-C and FF. You'll still need a 1.4x TC, to get closer to the framing of the 7D, with long lenses.
The good thing is, f/8 AF on the 1D, to help make up for that 1-stop loss of light from the 1.4x TC.

1Tanker wrote in post #16323063
Yes.. 1.3x. So, midway between APS-C and FF. You'll still need a 1.4x TC, to get closer to the framing of the 7D, with long lenses.
The good thing is, f/8 AF on the 1D, to help make up for that 1-stop loss of light from the 1.4x TC.

I had no idea, id rather get a 5d mark iii