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Oct 03, 2013 20:57 |  #1

Had one go for a swim tonight. Light stand fell over in a waterfall, the softbox filled quickly and pulled the flash under. A CP-E4 was connected too, but it stayed out of the water.

It seems to be fine, but will be overnighting in a bag of rice.

Anybody else had this happen? What were the long term effects, if any?

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Oct 03, 2013 21:54 |  #2

CPS will do their thing and then all will be fine. :-)


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Oct 03, 2013 22:59 |  #3

Do not put them inside anything. Why contain the moisture inside a moisture barrier with your flash?

1) Assuming the water was relatively clean and not salt water, remove the batteries and tape open the battery door.

2) Drain any water from the flash.

3) Place the flash in an open area and place a fan on them. Increase the air flow over the flash, do not restrict it. Water evaporates fastest with INCREASED air flow.

4) Change the orientation of the flash from time to time.

5) Do this for at least 2 days, longer if you do not need the gear.

6) Replace the batteries and things will likely be fine.

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Oct 03, 2013 23:07 |  #4

That sucks. Good luck.


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Oct 03, 2013 23:07 as a reply to  @ FlashZebra's post |  #5

Thanks guys. Lon, I put it in a bag of rice since it was my understanding the rice would act like those silica packets they ship hard drives with. The batteries and battery compartment were dry. But I will take your advice to heart and put the flash downstairs with a fan and dehumidifier for the next couple days. And yes, it was fresh water, and moving water from a waterfall.
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Next time I shoot a trash the dress session up there I will sand bag the light stands. lesson learned! :)


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Oct 03, 2013 23:18 |  #6

The big question is "did you save the rice"? :)


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Oct 03, 2013 23:50 |  #7

But of course! lololol


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Oct 04, 2013 08:30 |  #8

digital paradise wrote in post #16344811 (external link)
The big question is "did you save the rice"? :)

LOL no do not eat the rice after. Unless you like river water rice. :) My 580EXII took a drink a year ago.. Although I did open the bat compartment I did not put rice in but some got in . It worked fine after a week come to find out Canon flag ship flashes have very very good weather scealing. Dont think any water actualy got in my flash. However better safe than sorry.

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Oct 04, 2013 09:00 |  #9

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Thanks guys. Lon, I put it in a bag of rice since it was my understanding the rice would act like those silica packets they ship hard drives with. The batteries and battery compartment were dry. But I will take your advice to heart and put the flash downstairs with a fan and dehumidifier for the next couple days. And yes, it was fresh water, and moving water from a waterfall.
Thanks again.

Next time I shoot a trash the dress session up there I will sand bag the light stands. lesson learned! :)

I understand the functional drying mechanism with the rice, but it is just an inferior approach to to simple air drying with a fan.

Air drying is also better than silica gel.

Short of methods involving the largely impractical very low vacuum evaporation process called lyophilisation, commonly know as freeze drying, the most efficient method to evaporate water is to increase the mass transfer of air over the item.

It's not that the rice method does not work, it is just that the rice method takes longer to remove the water, and then there is the added expense and waste of pounds of rice.

Almost everyone has some sort of fan, and air is mostly free.

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Oct 04, 2013 09:17 |  #10

Although rice will absorb water quickly like silica I figure is more a long term moisture prevention procedure. I kinda like Lon's approach. I'd probably put it by my dehumidifier and run a fan on it.


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Oct 04, 2013 11:57 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #11

Thanks again guys. I placed it near the dry air exhaust vent of the dehumidifier. I'm changing it's physical orientation every 6 hours or so. Will keep y'all posted.


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Oct 04, 2013 11:59 |  #12

Hope it goes well for you.


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Oct 04, 2013 12:02 |  #13

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Thanks again guys. I placed it near the dry air exhaust vent of the dehumidifier.

good for you.

my wife put the kids' wet shoes on the intake side of the dehumidifier hoping it would suck the moisture out for the next school day.

I politely (i think) suggested she put them on the exhaust side of the machine where the dry air comes out.


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Oct 05, 2013 15:10 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #14

Well.....

It lives!! Used it as OCF on an engagement session today, and it worked just fine. I gotta say: Hat's off to Canon for their weather sealing. That thing was completely underwater, and never seemed to skip a beat.

Long term, we'll see. If it dies a premature death, then I'll know.

Thanks to everybody for the help and advice.


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Oct 08, 2013 10:55 |  #15

WillMass wrote in post #16348417 (external link)
Well.....

It lives!! Used it as OCF on an engagement session today, and it worked just fine. I gotta say: Hat's off to Canon for their weather sealing. That thing was completely underwater, and never seemed to skip a beat.

Long term, we'll see. If it dies a premature death, then I'll know.

Thanks to everybody for the help and advice.

Yah the weather sealing on Canons rules on their flagship models. It saved my 580EXII when it went for the drink.


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