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Oct 10, 2013 09:31 |  #1

Hey Ladies and Gents,

For the folk who have had a Canon 17-85 and just couldn't get on with it at all because of crazy distortion, softness, CA and lack of any real good IQ, what lens did you replace it with?

I'm looking to get rid of mine really soon, and after it being quite useful at a wedding the other day I was happy with the focal length but really unhappy with the quality of the shots.

I have future weddings booked for next year, and even at that wedding some of the guests were asking why I wasn't using FF (Can't afford to). I would like to use it's replacement for a lot of my Alamy stock work too, so minimal processing is required, as in distortion correction and CA.

I do like using DPP for my Alamy work, so I guess I'm limiting myself to a Canon lens.

Open to all suggestions though.

Thanks,
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Oct 10, 2013 09:34 |  #2

Paulstw wrote in post #16360341 (external link)
Hey Ladies and Gents,

For the folk who have had a Canon 17-85 and just couldn't get on with it at all because of crazy distortion, softness, CA and lack of any real good IQ, what lens did you replace it with?

I'm looking to get rid of mine really soon, and after it being quite useful at a wedding the other day I was happy with the focal length but really unhappy with the quality of the shots.

I have future weddings booked for next year, and even at that wedding some of the guests were asking why I wasn't using FF. I would like to use it's replacement for a lot of my Alamy stock work too, so minimal processing is required, as in distortion correction and CA.

I do like using DPP for my Alamy work, so I guess I'm limiting myself to a Canon lens.

Open to all suggestions though.

Thanks,
Paul

Replaced mine with the 15-85 and was quite happy.


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Oct 10, 2013 09:52 |  #3

2cruise wrote in post #16360345 (external link)
Replaced mine with the 15-85 and was quite happy.

That would be my top recommendation, too... so long as the variable f3.5-5.6 aperture isn't a problem. The focal length range would fit into your kit very nicely.


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Oct 10, 2013 10:00 |  #4

I don't want to say for definite that the fixed or variable aperture is a problem because I haven't seen evidence of it making a huge difference yet. I have considered getting a 17-55, then price was rather off putting. I then thought about the Sigma 17-50 but would I miss the 85mm long end? I have no idea.




  
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Oct 10, 2013 10:51 |  #5

If you just wanted a general walk around lens I'd say the canon 15-85 or sigma 17-70. But if you're serious about shooting weddings then I'd suggest one of the 17-5Xmm f2.8 zooms (or even a sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and a couple prime).

You already have the 70-200 II so I don't know why you're worried about 85mm on the long end. Honestly looking at you're lens list is say get the sigma 18-35 f1.8. You have a 50mm prime then 70-200 covered. The gain in speed and IQ will be huge compaired to the 17-86.




  
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Oct 10, 2013 10:52 |  #6

What about the Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 OS? (the new one)


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Oct 10, 2013 10:59 |  #7
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I have the 15-85. IMHO, it is the best EFs lens Canon makes. The 17-55 is a contender, but as you say, it is way too expensive. I use a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 non-VC when (rarely) I need that kind of aperture.


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Oct 10, 2013 11:30 |  #8

I also replaced mine with the 15-85 and am very happy with it.


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Oct 10, 2013 11:53 |  #9

Paulstw wrote in post #16360341 (external link)
Hey Ladies and Gents,

For the folk who have had a Canon 17-85 and just couldn't get on with it at all because of crazy distortion, softness, CA and lack of any real good IQ, what lens did you replace it with?

I'm looking to get rid of mine really soon, and after it being quite useful at a wedding the other day I was happy with the focal length but really unhappy with the quality of the shots.

I have future weddings booked for next year, and even at that wedding some of the guests were asking why I wasn't using FF (Can't afford to). I would like to use it's replacement for a lot of my Alamy stock work too, so minimal processing is required, as in distortion correction and CA.

I do like using DPP for my Alamy work, so I guess I'm limiting myself to a Canon lens.

Open to all suggestions though.

Thanks,
Paul

Although you will hear that the 18-135 STM and the 15-85 are the two obvious replacements to your 17-85 (a lens I used to own and liked a bit) , depending on how wide or far you need to go, if I were using a crop at a wedding I'd lean toward the 17-55 f/2.8 instead.

If the price is too high - as you say - look for a used copy.




  
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Oct 10, 2013 12:07 as a reply to  @ Eastport's post |  #10

i change mine for a 24-105l and have never looked back.


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Oct 10, 2013 15:37 |  #11

I would sell the 17-85 and pick up the 15-85 or the 17-55 as others have said. Both are really affordable on Canon refurb right now with the 15% deal. With the money you get for the 17-85, you'd only be spending a few hundred $$ to upgrade.

The 15-85 is in stock - http://shop.usa.canon.​com …-35-56-is-usm-refurbished (external link)

17-55 is currently out of stock, but might come back in before the sale ends. Keep an eye open.


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Oct 10, 2013 15:42 |  #12

Unless you shoot party events in low light very often, I'd rather use a 15-85 than a 17-55. And I once owned both at the same time (heck, I once had 15-85, 17-55, 24-105, 24-70/4L IS, 24-70 I and 24-70 II at the same time) and I can tell you that I picked 15-85 most of the time for a crop body.


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Oct 10, 2013 15:43 |  #13

I had the 15-85 but always said if I went crop body only again and had to re-purchase I would go with the 17-55. While the 15-85 is a great lens, the constant f/2.8 is worth the extra expense.


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Oct 11, 2013 01:45 as a reply to  @ L.J.G.'s post |  #14

gremlin75 wrote in post #16360527 (external link)
You already have the 70-200 II so I don't know why you're worried about 85mm on the long end. Honestly looking at you're lens list is say get the sigma 18-35 f1.8. You have a 50mm prime then 70-200 covered. The gain in speed and IQ will be huge compaired to the 17-86.

Reason I say that is because I didn't want to mess about with changing lenses during the ceremony. I can understand why folk have two bodies now.

YashicaFX2 wrote in post #16360542 (external link)
I have the 15-85. IMHO, it is the best EFs lens Canon makes. The 17-55 is a contender, but as you say, it is way too expensive. I use a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 non-VC when (rarely) I need that kind of aperture.

Interesting. I might rent them and see which one suits.

Cheers for all the replies. After reading through loads of other forum posts, it was clear the 17-55 was a big winner in peoples views. I guess if I'm to do paid work it pays to invest.




  
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Oct 11, 2013 05:37 |  #15
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15-85 might be an ok daytime general walkaround kind of lens (I've owned one before and hated every second of it), but for wedding? That's just suicidal lol

Paulstw wrote in post #16362285 (external link)
I guess if I'm to do paid work it pays to invest.

Spot on.

Get the right tool for the right job, and 15-85 isn't a wedding lens, not even remotely close nor fit for the purpose.

I'd rather take Sigma 17-50 over 15-85 for wedding if 17-55 is out of your budget.


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