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Canon 35mm f/2 or Samyang 14mm f/2.8

 
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Oct 11, 2013 07:34 |  #1

Wich one should I choose for aurora and landscape photography?
I have heard that 35mm f/2 has very poor IQ and Vignetting at edges on FF body, is it true?

Because I am planning to update my 1100D to 6D and I also need to update my wide angle lens to faster prime instead of "genuine chinese plastic" 18-55. :)

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Oct 11, 2013 07:57 |  #2

on a 6D I don't think 35mm is that wide. So with that in mind the Samyang is the better option.


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Oct 11, 2013 08:01 |  #3

I don't think the Samyang has Auto focus.. :-(


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Oct 11, 2013 08:15 as a reply to  @ Nick_Reading.UK's post |  #4

I dont think lack of AF is a problem to me, since I mostly shoot landscapes with wide-angle lenses.


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Oct 11, 2013 08:18 |  #5

The 35F2 is sharp stopped down in the corners on a crop 60D and according to Photozone and SLRgear, on full frame as well. Once the lens is at F5.6 it will be sharp across the frame. I have found it fine wide open for shots of people in low light at F2.




  
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Oct 11, 2013 09:11 |  #6

Funny question, Samyang 14mm of course! See my flickr to see what's possible with that lens -when the sky goes on fire, you want to go as wide as possible :)


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Oct 11, 2013 09:45 |  #7

They are two very different lenses...

14mm is insanely wide on a full frame camera like the 6D and can be difficult to learn to shoot with. It has rather strong "moustache" distortion in the center of the image. That can be corrected in post-processing, if need be. It may not be an issue for landscape/aurora shots. But would be for architecture, etc. The Rokinon/Samyang lens is manual focus and manual aperture, so will be slower to work with. That's likly no problem.

35mm is sort of a "slightly wide" standard lens on a FF camera like the 6D. Little distortion. The original 35/2 is a compact, somewhat lightly built lens without USM. It has a lot of fans and looks a little like the cheap 50/1.8 II, except the 35/2 has a metal bayonet mount. The new 35/2 IS USM seems a lot better built and to have improved IQ. It's larger and heavier than the original, just out this year and sometimes can be a bit hard to find. Of course, it costs more than the original 35/2, too. The original EF 35/2 sells for around $280 US, while the new 35/2 IS USM is currently offered for $550 US. The lens hood isn't included with either lens, the original EF 35/2's OEM hood sells for about $23. The new 35/2 IS USM's hood is a ridiculously expensive $54.

Personally, for landscapes I'd probably go for the 14mm. Be aware though that unless they are really filling the night sky auroras and other distant objects might be rendered too small and appear too far away in your images. An ultrawide like this exaggerates perspective relationships a lot... "expands" them, so to speak... where a 35mm focal length renders perspective more true to life unless you get super close to the subject.

BTW, the Samyang sells under many different brand names and all are the same lens. You'll find it as a Rokinon (who is probably the actual manufacturer), Bower, ProOptic and more. There's even a Vivitar version, though they label it a 13mm. It's exactly the same lens, though, so shop around. Also, if you buy one test it immediately and look for sharpness across the whole image. If one side appears softer than the other, there might be a problem with a decentered element. This seems to be a quality control issue that shows up occasionally with the 14mm lens (in any of the brands mentioned).


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Oct 11, 2013 10:05 |  #8

i'd look at a 16-35L, or maybe a tokina 16-28mm f2.8


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Oct 11, 2013 10:08 |  #9

both are fine lenses optically. the 14 is insanely wide. You can shoot handheld, and if not careful, your foot will show up in the frame. Manual focus is rather easy with the lens due to huge DOF.

the 35 is a normal slightly wide lens, and 14 is ultra ultra wide lens. It's like comparing a mustang to a ducatti. There are some aurora shots in the samyang 14 thread that are amazing: https://photography-on-the.net …ead.php?t=90927​2&page=171


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Oct 12, 2013 03:18 |  #10

Any wide angle beyond about 24mm on FF will start to produce weird distortions unless you take time to learn to use it.


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Oct 12, 2013 21:13 |  #11

Nick_Reading.UK wrote in post #16362648 (external link)
I don't think the Samyang has Auto focus.. :-(

You don't want auto-focus for taking photos of the Auroras. Set whichever lens you are using to manual focus, and focus to infinite. However, when focusing the Sanyang lens to infinite, follow the instructions found somewhere in this forum (don't align the mark on the barrel with the infinite symbol).




  
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Oct 13, 2013 13:15 |  #12

I'd recommend the Samy 14/2.8! it's a sharp lens with amazing flare control!


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Oct 13, 2013 15:00 |  #13

Photo123abc wrote in post #16362597 (external link)
Wich one should I choose for aurora and landscape photography?
I have heard that 35mm f/2 has very poor IQ and Vignetting at edges on FF body, is it true?

Because I am planning to update my 1100D to 6D and I also need to update my wide angle lens to faster prime instead of "genuine chinese plastic" 18-55. :)

-Ville Miettinen

Ville, If I was you, I would head over to the sample pages of lenses here on POTN, and see what that 14 samy can do.. Its great for Aurora Borealis, as well as catching the milky way. I seen some great LS shots also using the 14 samy.

However

My favorite for LS would be 17 and or 24 Tse , not cheap, but oh so good...

BTW igora90, I have seen your Aurora Borealis shots using the 14 samy, quite nice, I must say ...


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