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Oct 13, 2013 16:05 |  #1

http://www.flickr.com …iscuss/72157632​619839392/ (external link)


Basically that setup with these parts:
http://www.autozone.co​m …temIdentifier=2​98374_0_0_ (external link)

http://www.lowes.com …wer%2Binverter&​facetInfo= (external link)

And I will be shooting with 2x of these strobes going at a time, worse case scenario both will be at full power so 320Ws per fire
http://www.paulcbuff.c​om/b400.php (external link)


Few questions:


1. How do I charge it/know when it needs to be charged(figured, when its dead ill know....)
2. How many times can I fire 2x of these(at the same time) before this battery goes completely dead
3. Is it safe to use all of the items above together without any other things being needed?

Advice is appreciated.




  
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Oct 13, 2013 16:51 |  #2

Lead acid batteries need to be charged when every they are used to any extent.
And if they are being stored they should be charged and maintained with a trick or float charger.

Would be much better to get Lithium Ion battery and inverter.


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Oct 13, 2013 18:10 |  #3

dmward wrote in post #16368184 (external link)
Lead acid batteries need to be charged when every they are used to any extent.
And if they are being stored they should be charged and maintained with a trick or float charger.

Would be much better to get Lithium Ion battery and inverter.

Hmm, I will try to find one!

Yea I just went by his post so I didn't really know what type of battery besides a marine deep cycle

also, how would I go about charging the Lion battery if I found it?

Same for the one above, if you happen to know




  
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Oct 13, 2013 18:39 |  #4

Nick Aufiero wrote in post #16368099 (external link)
http://www.flickr.com …iscuss/72157632​619839392/ (external link)


Basically that setup with these parts:
http://www.autozone.co​m …temIdentifier=2​98374_0_0_ (external link)

http://www.lowes.com …wer%2Binverter&​facetInfo= (external link)

And I will be shooting with 2x of these strobes going at a time, worse case scenario both will be at full power so 320Ws per fire
http://www.paulcbuff.c​om/b400.php (external link)


Few questions:


1. How do I charge it/know when it needs to be charged(figured, when its dead ill know....)
2. How many times can I fire 2x of these(at the same time) before this battery goes completely dead
3. Is it safe to use all of the items above together without any other things being needed?

Advice is appreciated.


The inverter will not work with your AB, which need a pure sine wave AC power, buy a vagabond power pack or pure sine wave inverter.


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Oct 13, 2013 18:49 |  #5

tonyniev wrote in post #16368413 (external link)
The inverter will not work with your AB, which need a pure sine wave AC power, buy a vagabond power pack or pure sine wave inverter.

yeah actually I saw that after, the one Id get would be this
http://www.lowes.com …wer%2Binverter&​facetInfo= (external link)

or ill find another I suppose

but yeah, do I need to be looking for another battery?




  
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Oct 13, 2013 19:00 |  #6

I guess that is still not a pure sine wave inverter, check this site http://www.theinverter​store.com …e-inverters-off-grid.html (external link)


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Oct 13, 2013 19:01 |  #7

Just buy the vagabond minipack http://www.paulcbuff.c​om/vagabond.php (external link)


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Oct 13, 2013 19:07 |  #8

didn't realize you were trying to run AB monolights.
The Mini-Lithium is the best solution.
I built a DIY a few years ago, based on design that was posted in a thread on Fred Miranda forum.
It works great but cost almost as much as the VML. I have three and they work a charm.


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Oct 13, 2013 21:00 |  #9

tonyniev wrote in post #16368448 (external link)
Just buy the vagabond minipack http://www.paulcbuff.c​om/vagabond.php (external link)

+1. bw!




  
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Oct 14, 2013 07:50 |  #10

Yeah my only problem with it was the small amount of shots you can do and all that.

I would rather build something else that has multiple uses.

I am looking into ordering the vagabond 2, but I still wanted to build my own.


Reading about the vagabond tho I guess id get around 800 shots with my smaller 2x ab400s

eh. ill keep searching for now.

Thanks so far, other suggestions and inputs are welcome!




  
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Oct 14, 2013 08:56 |  #11

The number of shots is a function of battery capacity.
The easiest way to extend the number of shots is to have a second battery available to plug into the VML.
If its not practical there are cables that can be built that permit linking two batteries together to double the capacity.


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Oct 14, 2013 08:58 |  #12

dmward wrote in post #16369692 (external link)
The number of shots is a function of battery capacity.
The easiest way to extend the number of shots is to have a second battery available to plug into the VML.
If its not practical there are cables that can be built that permit linking two batteries together to double the capacity.

yeah I think I'm gonna get the VML and get a spare battery or two, seems like my best bet.

I would really like to build my own so I can use it for other things but..... I guess ill see




  
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Oct 14, 2013 09:00 |  #13

The inverter in a VML is just that an inverter. It can be used for anything that requires 120VAC.
There are posts about people using it to power computer, lights when power is out, etc.


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Oct 14, 2013 09:06 |  #14

dmward wrote in post #16369702 (external link)
The inverter in a VML is just that an inverter. It can be used for anything that requires 120VAC.
There are posts about people using it to power computer, lights when power is out, etc.

Which is true, I meant more of something stronger that lasts longer but, I believe I'm gonna just do the VML and a spare battery.

Maybe once i start shooting outside 24/7 ill worry about it, but for now, I really can get by using wall power with my shoots -.-




  
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