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Jan 10, 2014 12:41 |  #346

Yeah, it's no louder than my D700 or 5D but would be a lot louder than bodies with "silent shutter" modes.


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Jan 11, 2014 05:35 |  #347

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Good to hear you're keeping busy Julian. A7 looks like a very promising camera and one day I'd like to give it a try. Dang, it's that loud? :lol: It can't be louder than the Canon 1DX though, right? Edit: I guess shutter sound is not a big deal for me at all. It's the AF speed when used with metabones adapter that's keeping me away atm...

Hehe. It's loud but, it's not obnoxious if you know what I mean.:) The only two cameras I've used that were great for a silent modes is Leica's M9 and Canon's 5D III.

EDIT: Forgot to add that the Nikon Df's shutter is quiet too.




  
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Jan 11, 2014 18:02 as a reply to  @ smythie's post |  #348

Finally had a heat wave in NYC.... 50 Degrees F. lol..... Better than that 2, 3, 4 degrees we've had for the last 2 weeks.... although it rained i was out and about shooting with my Sony and Canon FL glass!

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Jan 12, 2014 05:57 |  #349

dtufino wrote in post #16597565 (external link)
Finally had a heat wave in NYC.... 50 Degrees F.

lol at heatwave haha.

just back from Osaka, they got so many used camera shops there - spent more time browsing the shops than taking pictures :p

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Jan 12, 2014 08:49 |  #350

H
You guys, nice shots. How good is the focus peaking on the a7r? Thinking about it as a landscape body but would e a nice walk around for family stuff.


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Jan 12, 2014 10:27 |  #351
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only used my buddies a7, and its quite amazing, very easy to use, plus there is option that it can zoom in viewfinder to better fine tuning.


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Jan 12, 2014 11:28 |  #352

focus peaking is a nice aid, but oftenly i have it turned off. especially when shooting faster lenses wide open.


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Jan 12, 2014 15:06 |  #353

With the 70-200L II:

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Jan 12, 2014 15:46 |  #354

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Superb. I notice with quite a few of your images that you get a very high saturation look, but without it appearing artificial. Are you doing a lot of post processing and/or splitting and blending images (e.g. using a different white balance for different areas of an image)?


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Jan 13, 2014 04:17 |  #355

re: focus peeking

it's taking some practice for me. I'm a bit hit and miss with the 1.4 primes I've been using on it so far. I'm finding so far that medium isn't quite accurate enough (indicates more than is in focus) but low hardly shows anything. Need more practice. Also need to look into the evf zoom to help


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Jan 13, 2014 07:56 |  #356

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re: focus peeking

it's taking some practice for me. I'm a bit hit and miss with the 1.4 primes I've been using on it so far. I'm finding so far that medium isn't quite accurate enough (indicates more than is in focus) but low hardly shows anything. Need more practice. Also need to look into the evf zoom to help


keep practicing, i shoot with peeking all the time and with wide open lenses.... i get tons of keepers... i find it tough nailing moving object @ 1.4, but depending if they are moving towards me or moving away from me,,,, i tend to focus in front or behind the subject and they will walk or move right into my focus area.. :-)


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Jan 13, 2014 08:31 as a reply to  @ dtufino's post |  #357

I wonder if the "tech" behind focus peaking is something that can be improved and polished, or if this is as good as it gets?

It works really well in most cases, but with faster prime lenses like 1.4 and 1.2, I still get some shots out of focus, even though the FP indicated that my subject was in perfect focus.




  
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Jan 13, 2014 08:55 |  #358

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I wonder if the "tech" behind focus peaking is something that can be improved and polished, or if this is as good as it gets?

It works really well in most cases, but with faster prime lenses like 1.4 and 1.2, I still get some shots out of focus, even though the FP indicated that my subject was in perfect focus.

I have a couple of SmallHD field monitors and the focus peaking implementation by SmallHD is better and more precise (plus they have numerous helpful tools for changing the peaking feedback). With the a7 and a7R, for near subjects (where the DOF gets thinner) and precision is key, I think using the view magnifier may be the way to go.

Speaking of the view magnifier: so far I do not like how Sony has implemented this. I hate that pushing the button (that I've assigned the view magnifier function to) initially brings up a rectangle showing you where the view will be magnified. This is an unwelcome unnecessary step. I prefer how Canon handles zooming in the LV. I want to be able to hit a button zoom in, focus, and zoom out....quickly. There is no need for a preview of the zoom region because it should simply be centered about the focus point by default. But, maybe I just haven't fine-tuned my settings, so anyone please let me know if there is a way to expedite the view magnifier/focusing workflow.


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Jan 13, 2014 09:06 |  #359

dtufino wrote in post #16601486 (external link)
keep practicing

Good advice. Focus peaking is a great tool, but getting the most of it takes practice.

I'll say this for the a7: it's so much easier to manual focus than doing so on a Canon camera.


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Jan 13, 2014 10:10 |  #360

David Arbogast wrote in post #16601631 (external link)
I have a couple of SmallHD field monitors and the focus peaking implementation by SmallHD is better and more precise (plus they have numerous helpful tools for changing the peaking feedback). With the a7 and a7R, for near subjects (where the DOF gets thinner) and precision is key, I think using the view magnifier may be the way to go.

Speaking of the view magnifier: so far I do not like how Sony has implemented this. I hate that pushing the button (that I've assigned the view magnifier function to) initially brings up a rectangle showing you where the view will be magnified. This is an unwelcome unnecessary step. I prefer how Canon handles zooming in the LV. I want to be able to hit a button zoom in, focus, and zoom out....quickly. There is no need for a preview of the zoom region because it should simply be centered about the focus point by default. But, maybe I just haven't fine-tuned my settings, so anyone please let me know if there is a way to expedite the view magnifier/focusing workflow.

I just wish the magnifier stayed on longer. It always seems to revert back to normal view just as I'm trying to confirm I've achieved focus. I understand why the rectangle comes on first...it's so that the zoomed area can be moved using the control wheel on the back of the camera. Helpful I think for focusing off center at a narrow DOF to avoid focus/recompose. The magnifier is set to C1 by default which works fine for me.


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