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Oct 19, 2013 18:10 |  #31

WOW, thanks for the input ladies and gents. Really appreciated. I honestly do not want to sell my camera, I have waited way too long and saved up, saved up, then finally got it. To me moving to the 6d will be a step down, however it is a fantastic camera (6d). Right now I have 2 lenses that I am using. 24-105 and my 50 1.4. Thats it, I got rid of my 70-200 not because I did not like it just because I wanted to "slim" down. I found myself switching too many times between lenses and missing shots. I think I am going to hang on to the 5d iii and just take a break for a month or so. Also where I live, there is not much going on, I have probably shot the same thing around here to death! The fact that the 5d iii can still fetch $3000 is amazing. I think I have about 2000 shots on it at the most! I should probably check that sometime.

Anyway, thanx again for the input, just wanted to spill my thoughts.




  
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Oct 19, 2013 18:24 |  #32

I'm not bothered by using less than the potential of my 5D III and red/while lenses, but am often frustrated by the familiar weight/transport issues. Today I could have used a macro. Yesterday the big long boat anchor would have been along. It wasn't. I don't haul it up the trail. Argh.

Cost is not an issue for me but having the camera and/or the appropriate lens at home is a big one.

I really should haul a decent little P&S along but don't. The results always pale when compared to the "real" gear.

The particular purpose shooting HDH suggests works for me. Accepting or making up an assignment often turns out to be great fun.


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Oct 19, 2013 20:25 as a reply to  @ AZGeorge's post |  #33

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #16378676 (external link)
One of my friends has put it very accurately.

Using a ff DSLR for casual shooting is like driving a dump truck to pick up a bag of chips at the mall.

If you're only using two lenses, go mirrorless.

I couldn't disagree with this statement more. I have a 5D3, two sweet primes, and an off camera flash rig with a soft box. That't it. I use this stuff for casual shooting ALL THE TIME. I probably don't have to tell you that I have the most bad ass snap shots one could ever possible hope for. Casual shots that some iPhone or P&S would never be able to get. Many times it is the gear and the gear alone that separates my snap shot from the next person's garbage. So, I personally think your friend's statement is actually extraordinarily inaccurate. No offense.

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I don't really understand the issue. Who cares if you aren't using the camera to its full potential? You already own it, why would you sell it just to buy an inferior camera if money isn't a concern?

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Except perhaps for fast-moving action, there's hardly anything the 5DIII will do that the 6D can't do just as well. And it's smaller, lighter, and cheaper. As for the action stuff, back in the day we thought five frames per second was just great.

With the current rebates, you can get the 6D for $1599. For me, that's a no-brainer and I would buy one right now if I didn't already have one. The 6D is the quiet little camera that does just about everything very well without a lot of fuss, muss, and fanfare.

The problem for me with the 6D is the 1/4000th max SS. There is no way I could do this. But, again, I shoot with wide primes.

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WOW, thanks for the input ladies and gents. Really appreciated. I honestly do not want to sell my camera, I have waited way too long and saved up, saved up, then finally got it. To me moving to the 6d will be a step down, however it is a fantastic camera (6d). Right now I have 2 lenses that I am using. 24-105 and my 50 1.4. Thats it, I got rid of my 70-200 not because I did not like it just because I wanted to "slim" down. I found myself switching too many times between lenses and missing shots. I think I am going to hang on to the 5d iii and just take a break for a month or so. Also where I live, there is not much going on, I have probably shot the same thing around here to death! The fact that the 5d iii can still fetch $3000 is amazing. I think I have about 2000 shots on it at the most! I should probably check that sometime.

Anyway, thanx again for the input, just wanted to spill my thoughts.

Dude, just keep your stuff. When I read you original post I thought to myself, "this guy sound EXACTLY like myself". I have trimmed down my kit to what I mentioned above. I let it sit for a month or so here and there, but when I get it out it is really a joy to use. THis camera paired with my two lenses is a SWEET, and somewhat minimalist set up! So what if you aren't using it to it's full potential, you own it. And like my wife says, "you don't have to feed it". I have a 5D3 that I bought right when it came out. I paid big. I would loose $1000 bucks on it if I were to sell due to depreciation. For what, to pick up a slightly smaller rig? I shoot all types of conditions with regards to light. Until there is a FF mirrorless camera that will take awesome prime lenses and has the low light capabilities the 5D3 has, I'm not changing anything. (I think this actually may be comming but I don't want to look too hard :cool:) I think you should feel the same way until the day comes that you can in your heart say you just don't care about your photography anymore (or you get in a jam for $). Then, and only then, sell it all.


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Oct 19, 2013 20:44 |  #34

Agree with the last para above.

Personally, ...............I've waited 50 yrs to get to where i wanted to be with my gear. I've been through your type of thinking before in aspects of my other hobbies (fishing/camping/fish-keeping) and sold stuff that i rarely used and then found I had a need for it later.

A lot of the time it was guilt with regards to "tying up assets" as my wife was the major breadwinner and I a carer for an autistic son and foster kids. Now I'm a "pensioner" I've convinced myself that what I now have is well deserved and i shouldn't feel that guilt. So what if it gets little use? (although it gets used a lot as i'm re-invigorated by the 5Dmk3) it's all i wanted and at this stage in my life (after a quadruple by-pass) I may never get to feel this good about a hobby again. I view it as a "gold clock after years of service" (if you will) and I don't care if it sits on the mantlepiece most of the time :-)

I sold all my fish tanks and breeding stock/fry to finance it and am now kicking myself that now I've got it, I have no fish to photograph :-( so ther's just another example of how you may regret it later.

There's nothing more I want and I'm not in need of the cash, so I'll hang onto it. If I needed the cash, then more thought would be required as to selling but ask yourself it you deserve what you've got and/or if you need to part with it in order to finance something else. If you agree that you deserve it, then why not hang onto it and try financing for something else another way.


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Oct 19, 2013 21:44 |  #35

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The problem for me with the 6D is the 1/4000th max SS. There is no way I could do this. But, again, I shoot with wide primes.

Inasmuch as I spent the first 35 years of my career shooting with 35mm cameras with 1/1000th second top shutter speed and medium format cameras with top shutter speeds of 1/500th second and never missed anything faster, 1/4000th works fine for me.:cool:


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Oct 19, 2013 22:15 |  #36

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Inasmuch as I spent the first 35 years of my career shooting with 35mm cameras with 1/1000th second top shutter speed and medium format cameras with top shutter speeds of 1/500th second and never missed anything faster, 1/4000th works fine for me.:cool:

That's great, but I'm new"ish" and a poor photographer at that. So when I'm shooting at 1.4-2.0 midday there are many times part of my exposure would benefit from faster ss's than 1/4000th. Unless of course I had an ND. Did you use an ND in those days?


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Oct 19, 2013 22:29 |  #37

Dave Jenkins wrote in post #16382979 (external link)
Except perhaps for fast-moving action, there's hardly anything the 5DIII will do that the 6D can't do just as well. And it's smaller, lighter, and cheaper. As for the action stuff, back in the day we thought five frames per second was just great.

With the current rebates, you can get the 6D for $1599. For me, that's a no-brainer and I would buy one right now if I didn't already have one. The 6D is the quiet little camera that does just about everything very well without a lot of fuss, muss, and fanfare.

BTW Dave, what exactly are you referring to with this part of your initial comment. Just curious. Thanks.


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Oct 19, 2013 22:59 |  #38

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It sounds like you should take a look at the new A7 or A7R from Sony. The world's smallest, lightest full frame camera, with high resolution and a hefty amount of dynamic range. It can also take EF-lenses through an adapter.

Read up on it. It's the camera many of us Canonites have been waiting for.

I've preordered mine.
I still have my big ass 5D3, but will probably sell it later on.

you mean the latest one many canonites have been waiting for. the chronically discontent element has always been here and the object of lust might be the A7R today but it was the D3 yesterday. same as it ever was.


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Oct 19, 2013 23:27 |  #39

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #16378676 (external link)
One of my friends has put it very accurately.

Using a ff DSLR for casual shooting is like driving a dump truck to pick up a bag of chips at the mall.

If you're only using two lenses, go mirrorless.

At least one of your friends is a snob.


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Oct 20, 2013 00:05 |  #40

I like the idea of an assignment or 52 project.
Think outside the box.



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Oct 20, 2013 00:06 |  #41

ed rader wrote in post #16384106 (external link)
you mean the latest one many canonites have been waiting for. the chronically discontent element has always been here and the object of lust might be the A7R today but it was the D3 yesterday. same as it ever was.

Yeah you have to stop chasing gear if you really want to be happy. We're long past the point where buying a new camera actually makes a significant improvement in quality.


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Oct 20, 2013 04:40 |  #42

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At least one of your friends is a snob.

How did you know?

But seriously, I'm confused. How do you define a snob?


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Oct 20, 2013 06:53 |  #43

Dave Jenkins wrote in post #16383960 (external link)
Except perhaps for fast-moving action, there's hardly anything the 5DIII will do that the 6D can't do just as well. And it's smaller, lighter, and cheaper. As for the action stuff, back in the day we thought five frames per second was just great.

With the current rebates, you can get the 6D for $1599. For me, that's a no-brainer and I would buy one right now if I didn't already have one. The 6D is the quiet little camera that does just about everything very well without a lot of fuss, muss, and fanfare.

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Inasmuch as I spent the first 35 years of my career shooting with 35mm cameras with 1/1000th second top shutter speed and medium format cameras with top shutter speeds of 1/500th second and never missed anything faster, 1/4000th works fine for me.:cool:

You can come in and justify your decisions all you want, but your posts have the tone that whatever works for you should work for everybody. I'm guessing that is not your intention. At any rate, just because the best bodies used to work at 5fps doesn't mean that all sports or wildlife shooters thought it was just fine. Same goes for shutter speed -- there are conditions where 1/8000 is appropriate -- especially if you're trying to overpower the sun with strobes. Just because you don't shoot like that doesn't invalidate the usefulness of the technology.


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Oct 20, 2013 07:36 |  #44

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there are conditions where 1/8000 is appropriate -- especially if you're trying to overpower the sun with strobes. Just because you don't shoot like that doesn't invalidate the usefulness of the technology.

Please tell us more. How does 1/8000 make it easier?


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Oct 20, 2013 08:13 |  #45

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Hi guys/gals. Lately I have not been shooting much, mostly because of work and other things. I am also finding that I am not using my 5d mark iii to its full potential. I have even thought about selling it and buying a 6d. I am not a pro by any means, just an "advanced hobbyist" to say the best. I have also downgraded a lot of my gear to its minimums (Down to 2 lenses and flash) mostly to save on weight when travelling and biking.

Does anyone else feel this way about their gear?

I have to admit that I have more lenses that I seem to really need. I don't find a lot of use for my 10-22 since I left the Rocky Mountain area, and I don't use my 100mm L IS macro either. The 60mm is more versatile on my 60D. Unfortunately I also don't live anyplace where it's easy to sell them, so they live in a spare duffel bag in the closet.


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