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Oct 17, 2013 16:23 |  #16

Another vote for the 10-22.


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Oct 17, 2013 17:10 |  #17

[QUOTE=w0m;16378583]th​is comes up every few weeks. Canon 10-22 or Tokina 11-16. Depends whether you favor flare resistance or speed more.[/quote]
and if you can handle the stunted range


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Oct 17, 2013 17:16 |  #18

Speedster159 wrote in post #16378034 (external link)
I'm going to be using a 7D ( or 7D MKII if i'm patient enough ) i was planning on getting a 17 - 40 but then i'm also thinking of getting the 24-105.

So i thought you replacing the 17-40 with the 10-22. In your opinion what would be the best UWA zoom that won't go past the price of the 17-40?

It's going to be used for event coverage, video, and almost anything i can see fit to do with it.

10-22 is a fabulous lens on the 7D! I seriously think Canon could add weather seals and sell it as an L. But they'll never do that for an EF-S lens :)




  
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Oct 17, 2013 17:28 |  #19

Maybe the OP was confused on UWA? If you mention the 17-40L maybe you were looking for something more like a wide to standard zoom? If this is the case, the Sigma 17-50 2.8, Tamron 17-50 2.8, and Canon 17-55 2.8 are all good choices. The Tamron gets slightly better reviews than the Sigma, and the Canon gets slightly better reviews than the Tamron. Or if you wanted a lens to use that needed longer focal lengths, consider the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4, Canon 15-85 3.5-5.6, or the Canon 18-135 3.5-5.6.


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Oct 17, 2013 17:29 as a reply to  @ CactusJuice's post |  #20

I think the Canon 10-22mm is overall the best, but not by a ton. If you need f/2.8 then the Tokina is the only choice.

I went for the sigma 10-20, because it is close to (but IMO ever so slightly behind the Canon) in performance. With the added benefit of being able to be used on a full frame when attached to an off-brand 1.4X TC for its entire range with little vignetting and auto-focusing intact. That range on a FF is 14-28mm - a wider FOV than when it is on a crop. Have a look here. Even with the physical modifications (at least the ones I know of) the Canon can't be used for its full range on a FF without major vignetting at the wide end.


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Oct 17, 2013 18:23 |  #21

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Maybe the OP was confused on UWA? If you mention the 17-40L maybe you were looking for something more like a wide to standard zoom? If this is the case, the Sigma 17-50 2.8, Tamron 17-50 2.8, and Canon 17-55 2.8 are all good choices. The Tamron gets slightly better reviews than the Sigma, and the Canon gets slightly better reviews than the Tamron. Or if you wanted a lens to use that needed longer focal lengths, consider the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4, Canon 15-85 3.5-5.6, or the Canon 18-135 3.5-5.6.

The 17-40 is a UWA on a FF body, but the 10-22 is a true UWA on a crop, hence my decision.

I've always hated the 18-55 range... :| It seemed like that 18 is too tight for my needs.


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Oct 17, 2013 18:32 |  #22

I enjoy my Canon 10-22. Once I sell my 7D and maybe 5d3 in a few years the 10-22 with go with the 7D. For not I use the 10-22 a bunch! I started using the 10-22 for day times as my goto lens for my Disney trips.


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Oct 17, 2013 18:42 |  #23

i think they're all pretty good...it really comes down to what you value most...here's a comparison of most of them, but not all:
http://www.juzaphoto.c​om/article.php?l=en&ar​ticle=34 (external link)

in my opinion if you want biggest range, and brand name, stick with the canon...if you want a faster aperture, and can deal with the short range, go for the tokina 11-16mm...if you want a constant aperture, there's the sigma 10-20mm f3.5, or the tokina 12-24/8mm f4...if you want crazy wide there's the sigma 8-16mm...if you want a good bang for the buck, there's the sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6

but really they're all good, and certainly all capable of good photos


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Oct 17, 2013 18:49 as a reply to  @ post 16378730 |  #24

I have been using the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 Mark-1 lens for years and I have been quite happy with it. I have not experienced problems with flare but, I always use a lens hood and seldom shoot into the sun with the wide angle lens. The Mark-2 version is supposed to have better flare resistance.

The lens is plenty wide enough for my uses and the price ($500 with lens hood supplied) was quite good.

Roman Johnston's excellent imagery in his galleries were one of reasons that I chose the 12-24mm Tokina and I have never regretted that choice.

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A goodly proportion of his images were shot with the Tokina on a crop format Nikon camera...


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Oct 17, 2013 21:12 |  #25

Reading this thread convinced me to add the EF-S 10-22 to my gear list below. Sure, it'd be great to add another 'L' (17-40), but I should wait until I get a 5Dmark-something as a second body. (I'm keeping the 7D till it dies...)


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Oct 18, 2013 15:06 |  #26

the 10-22 is fantastic, you'll have fun!

After reading tons of reviews on the UWA zooms and not really falling in love with any of them (for FF) I just ordered a Samyang/Rokinon 14mm. A lot cheaper and fantastic IQ.
No AF, no zoom of course, I'll get me an AF chip to glue on if I think I need one (about $10) but from the samples in the lens thread here it seems setting it at something like 2ft and f5.6 and just forgetting it after that delivers the goods in most cases, otherwise focus with live view.

Considering that this is really a special use lens I really don't need AF or zoom, I'll use it when I want to go really wide. And at around $350 it's a total steal.

All the zooms seem to have quite some corner issues wide open, vignetting, CA, and I'd mostly use at the widest setting, I can live without the zoom.

I have the 10-22 for my 40D and love it, but again, a special use lens that does not get used all that much, figure I'll save a couple hundred here and get what I want. Sigma goes even wider with their 12-, but has too many issues for my liking. Also figure I can sell the Rokinon (what I got via Amazon Prime, here on Monday) if I find down the road I need to go even wider - somewhat doubt that. 10-22 is basically 16- on crop, and there I already had to make sure my feet are not in the photo :-D

The zooms under 24mm are expensive (the 16- etc) and also don't test as good as I'd like for the price they cost.

This will be a landscape and trick/goofy pictures lens, I'll buy me something else for the money saved, maybe the wireless RamRanger gadget for food and macro photography...


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Dec 17, 2013 14:25 |  #27

Corbeau wrote in post #16379369 (external link)
Reading this thread convinced me to add the EF-S 10-22 to my gear list below. Sure, it'd be great to add another 'L' (17-40), but I should wait until I get a 5Dmark-something as a second body. (I'm keeping the 7D till it dies...)

Done! Found a well-taken-care-of 10-22 for a decent price. The 20 2.8 is now officially for sale! (Yeah, I lost max aperture, but I'm gaining a crapload of wider angle...)


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Dec 17, 2013 16:06 |  #28

Speedster159 wrote in post #16378034 (external link)
I'm going to be using a 7D ( or 7D MKII if i'm patient enough ) i was planning on getting a 17 - 40 but then i'm also thinking of getting the 24-105.

So i thought you replacing the 17-40 with the 10-22. In your opinion what would be the best UWA zoom that won't go past the price of the 17-40?

It's going to be used for event coverage, video, and almost anything i can see fit to do with it.

Heya,

Canon EF 10-22mm if you want the best all around day time UWA for crop that has a good entry cost.

Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 if you want a night time specific UWA that has a great entry cost for it's total quality.

Rokinon/Samyang 14mm f2.8 if you want a bit of everything in a manual UWA prime, for a very affordable cost.

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Dec 17, 2013 16:29 |  #29

w0m wrote in post #16378583 (external link)
this comes up every few weeks. Canon 10-22 or Tokina 11-16. Depends whether you favor flare resistance or speed more.

ed rader wrote in post #16378848 (external link)
and if you can handle the stunted range

Or if you already own a 17-50/2.8 you may not need the ~16-22mm range, so it may be wasted $/range and the 11-16/2.8 fills the gap perfectly.... :wink:


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Dec 17, 2013 20:54 |  #30

I love my Sigma 10-20mm UWA!

I haven't tried any of the alternatives, but mine has given me a ton of great shots.


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