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Oct 23, 2013 16:18 |  #1

Having spent a long time striving to achieve the sharp pictures I often see frequent this site I am starting to wonder how sharp is too sharp? Is that even a thing?

I understand that too much sharpening will create harsh lines around things which shouldn't be there. But perhaps I am not able to tell if I have gone too far.

I am pleased with how sharp these are:

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But what do others think? Recently I do feel like I am moving the sharpness slider over a long way in Lightroom, usually past 100.

Would the 'issues' be worsened as the pictures were printed larger or smaller?

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Oct 24, 2013 00:22 |  #2

In Lightroom I typically go fairly light with the input sharpening, 40 maybe. I look at the 100% view and if it's nice and sharp I'm happy.

Now another concern is "output sharpening". To me, that's different, it's less a matter of how fine detail shows up and more a matter of the overall "look and feel" of the image, issues of contrast and clarity more than "sharpening"...

But, that's just me, other opinions may vary!


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Oct 24, 2013 03:54 |  #3

My own method is "enough and no more". What's enough though, that's the difficult bit!

Printing needs more sharpening than images intended for the web. But even when printing, I tend to judge by eye on the screen image.


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Oct 24, 2013 10:52 |  #4

Yeah, I suppose like anything it's just 'practice'. None of those shots abovelook over ssharpened then?

The larger size they are printed then the less it matters? Or the more likely you are to see the problems associated with over sharpening?


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Oct 24, 2013 11:11 |  #5

The pics you posted don't seem "over-sharpened" to me...do you see problems with them?


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Oct 24, 2013 12:07 |  #6

No, just some comments I had the other day, specifically on number 2.

I was quite pleased with how 2 turned out


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Oct 24, 2013 14:51 |  #7

#2 and #3 seem perfect to me, in #1 I see a trace of halo in the edge of the face profile, but I'm aware that it may be accentuated by lighting. Anyway, I'd keep sharpness slightly lower on #1.




  
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Oct 24, 2013 17:53 |  #8

all 3 images seem well lit. I have noticed that over sharpening really rears its ugly head when the image is underexposed, slightly noisy and maybe shot with a higher than usual ISO. If they were not exposed as well, I would say the sharpening would be more obvious.


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Oct 24, 2013 18:47 |  #9

Relative to the job of sharpening, these look good to me, no crunchies.
As to whether the subject matter needs that much sharpening, that more subjective. They still look good to my in that regard also.


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Oct 24, 2013 21:12 |  #10

The "Masking" slider is your friend. Hold down Shift-Alt while you adjust it to see what it does. The farther right, the more sharpness is concentrated on line detail versus noise or small detail in solid colors. Especially do this if you've pulled up the exposure or shadows.


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Oct 27, 2013 09:55 |  #11

I don't think these are over sharpened either. There's a fine line but you appear to have a great handle on it.


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Oct 27, 2013 17:29 |  #12

Portraits are more flattering when they are a little soft. That said those photos aren't necessarily too sharp.
However #1 appears to have a problem with the motion blur, the sharpening may well have had a negative effect on that.


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Oct 28, 2013 07:58 |  #13

bsmotril wrote in post #16396984 (external link)
The "Masking" slider is your friend. Hold down Shift-Alt while you adjust it to see what it does. The farther right, the more sharpness is concentrated on line detail versus noise or small detail in solid colors. Especially do this if you've pulled up the exposure or shadows.

Thank you for this. Never knew about it.


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