i.e. if you double the focal length would the size or something in the image double?
Oct 31, 2013 15:20 | #1 i.e. if you double the focal length would the size or something in the image double? I come here for your expert opinion. Please do not hesitate to critique or edit.
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xarqi Cream of the Crop 10,435 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Aotearoa/New Zealand More info | Oct 31, 2013 16:35 | #2 That depends on what you mean by "size'".
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SkipD Cream of the Crop 20,476 posts Likes: 165 Joined Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA More info | Oct 31, 2013 17:04 | #4 If you double the distance to a subject, double the focal length to keep the subject framed the same. Skip Douglas
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KirkS518 Goldmember 3,983 posts Likes: 24 Joined Apr 2012 Location: Central Gulf Coast, Flori-duh More info | Oct 31, 2013 18:06 | #5 Great explanation SkipD. Now, I'd like to hijack this thread. If steroids are illegal for athletes, should PS be illegal for models?
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Nov 01, 2013 06:50 | #6 KirkS518 wrote in post #16414597 Great explanation SkipD. Now, I'd like to hijack this thread. ![]() How about with macro lenses? Let's say a 50mm macro and a 100mm macro? How will the image change? For the situation described by Skip? Not at all. Frank Hollis - Retired mass spectroscopist
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Echo63 Goldmember 2,868 posts Likes: 169 Joined Aug 2006 Location: Perth - Western Australia - Earth More info | Nov 01, 2013 09:17 | #7 Here's an interesting little bit of info about focal length (and it kinda follows the inverse square law) My Best Imageswww.echo63.deviantart.com
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AbuMahendra Senior Member 368 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2013 More info | Nov 01, 2013 11:00 | #8 Permanent banNo, it can't be. Focal length is theoretically infinite. Field of view (an angle, really) is theoretically a maximum of 360 degrees.
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Nov 01, 2013 11:01 | #9 SkipD wrote in post #16414456 If you double the distance to a subject, double the focal length to keep the subject framed the same. Here's a reason why this is something worth remembering: Let's assume that you are taking a photo of some friends in a scene that has mountains in the background. You stand 20 feet from the people and view the scene. A 50mm lens will let you fill the frame with the group of people and some of the background quite nicely, so you take a shot. Then you realize that the mountains are rather small in the background. Back up to to 40 feet (twice the distance) from the group of people and view the scene, you will see that the mountains are now larger relative to the people - twice the size they were before, in fact. However, the people are smaller in your viewfinder. You now need a 100mm lens to keep the people the same size as in the first image, but the mountains now appear twice the size that they were in the first shot. Why is this? It's because the additional twenty feet that you put between yourself and the people is insignificant relative to the fifteen miles between your viewing spot and the mountains. Good post. Thanks. I come here for your expert opinion. Please do not hesitate to critique or edit.
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xarqi Cream of the Crop 10,435 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Aotearoa/New Zealand More info | Nov 01, 2013 15:28 | #10 Abu Mahendra wrote in post #16416062 No, it can't be. Focal length is theoretically infinite. Field of view (an angle, really) is theoretically a maximum of 360 degrees. Can focal length be negative? No.
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pwm2 "Sorry for being a noob" 8,626 posts Likes: 3 Joined May 2007 Location: Sweden More info | Nov 01, 2013 15:34 | #11 Abu Mahendra wrote in post #16416062 No, it can't be. Focal length is theoretically infinite. Field of view (an angle, really) is theoretically a maximum of 360 degrees. A larger focal length corresponds to a smaller field of view. An infinite focal length would be zero field of view i.e. all light rays are parallell so your sensor of x mm would capture x mm of a mountain whatever distance that mountain might be (ignoring athmosphere and all other problems involved). 5DMk2 + BG-E6 | 40D + BG-E2N | 350D + BG-E3 + RC-1 | Elan 7E | Minolta Dimage 7U | (Gear thread)
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SkipD Cream of the Crop 20,476 posts Likes: 165 Joined Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA More info | Nov 01, 2013 15:41 | #12 Abu Mahendra wrote in post #16416062 No, it can't be. What question are you answering with this? Abu Mahendra wrote in post #16416062 Focal length is theoretically infinite. Since when? Abu Mahendra wrote in post #16416062 Field of view (an angle, really) is theoretically a maximum of 360 degrees. No conventional lens will come anywhere close to an angle of view of 360°. It's tough to get a lens to cover 180° and most that get close are "fish-eye" lenses. Skip Douglas
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Nov 01, 2013 16:07 | #13 Here is a graph of the relationship that I found through Google:
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pwm2 "Sorry for being a noob" 8,626 posts Likes: 3 Joined May 2007 Location: Sweden More info | Nov 01, 2013 16:07 | #14 SkipD wrote in post #16416765 What question are you answering with this? Since when? No conventional lens will come anywhere close to an angle of view of 360°. It's tough to get a lens to cover 180° and most that get close are "fish-eye" lenses. Yes - a flat sensor means that when the lens gets wider then the field of view will go towards 180 degrees - i.e. light rays going straight sideways - and not towards 360 degree. 5DMk2 + BG-E6 | 40D + BG-E2N | 350D + BG-E3 + RC-1 | Elan 7E | Minolta Dimage 7U | (Gear thread)
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pwm2 "Sorry for being a noob" 8,626 posts Likes: 3 Joined May 2007 Location: Sweden More info | Nov 01, 2013 16:13 | #15 KirkS518 wrote in post #16414597 Great explanation SkipD. Now, I'd like to hijack this thread. ![]() How about with macro lenses? Let's say a 50mm macro and a 100mm macro? How will the image change? Both a 50mm and a 100mm macro lens can capture your subject at 1:1, i.e a 5mm fly could project to 5mm on the sensor. 5DMk2 + BG-E6 | 40D + BG-E2N | 350D + BG-E3 + RC-1 | Elan 7E | Minolta Dimage 7U | (Gear thread)
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