very helpful information, I felt the same way. For me when I shoot portraits, head, shoulder or half body, I would always 85L, but I found that with full body, I think 135mm L or 70-200mm 2.8 IS II are better in the way of sharpness.
Patrickn Member 63 posts Likes: 2 Joined Aug 2013 More info | Nov 02, 2013 06:50 | #16 very helpful information, I felt the same way. For me when I shoot portraits, head, shoulder or half body, I would always 85L, but I found that with full body, I think 135mm L or 70-200mm 2.8 IS II are better in the way of sharpness.
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Kaiser_photographer Member 196 posts Likes: 1 Joined Feb 2011 More info | Nov 02, 2013 07:28 | #17 Ginga wrote in post #16415595 Is it just me, or is it easier to nail the focus on close up portraits (head and shoulders), than it is when shooting full body portraits? When I shoot close ups, I always get the subjects eyes in perfect focus. However, when I shoot full body, my photos are often a little bit fuzzy, and the subjects face + eyes are not as sharp as in the close up shots. Shouldn't it be the other way around?? (I mean, shouldn't it be easier to nail AF on full body shots?) I always try to shoot at f/1.2 btw. Maybe thats a "bad aperture" for full body shots? ![]() As most said is easy to focus at closer distances than on a distant object, may be your lens needs an af micro-adjust.
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Ginga THREAD STARTER Senior Member 370 posts Likes: 1 Joined Feb 2013 Location: Jokkmokk - Sweden More info | Nov 02, 2013 11:36 | #18 Kaiser_photographer wrote in post #16418155 As most said is easy to focus at closer distances than on a distant object, may be your lens needs an af micro-adjust. On mine I had to dial +12 ma. I've thought about that, and I've even put my 85L through tests with Reikan Focal and Dot-tune but the AF seems to be fine as it is. Sony A7R * 70-200 2.8L II * 24-70L II * Samyang 14
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Patrickn Member 63 posts Likes: 2 Joined Aug 2013 More info | Nov 02, 2013 13:40 | #19 I did the M/A before I read this thread, after the M/A I don't think it helps to get the really sharp image with the distant object or full body portrait.
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igora90 Senior Member 923 posts Likes: 82 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Rovaniemi, Finland More info | Nov 02, 2013 13:40 | #20 I'm a new 85mm f/1.2 owner and I've noticed the same thing, it's really hard to get a sharp full body portrait photo! It sounds really funny that this lens could take only half body portraits well. Must be some kind of a user error as there are lots of insanely good portraits in the 85mm thread 2x Canon 6D, Sigma 35mm f/1.4, Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART, EF 85mm f/1.8, EF 135 F/2.0
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Patrickn Member 63 posts Likes: 2 Joined Aug 2013 More info | Nov 04, 2013 21:22 | #21 igora90 wrote in post #16418787 I'm a new 85mm f/1.2 owner and I've noticed the same thing, it's really hard to get a sharp full body portrait photo! It sounds really funny that this lens could take only half body portraits well. Must be some kind of a user error as there are lots of insanely good portraits in the 85mm thread Hi igora90,
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igora90 Senior Member 923 posts Likes: 82 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Rovaniemi, Finland More info | Nov 05, 2013 01:04 | #22 Patrick n wrote in post #16424991 Hi igora90, I just wonder, did you have sigma 85 mm 1.4 before? Did your sigma 85s can take full body portrait with very sharp photo? Thanks. Yes I had. I used it with 5Dc and the full body portraits were very sharp. But after changing to 6D I had focusing problems with it so I changed it to 85mm f/1.2. Not seeing the same crispy shots that I got with the 5D+sigma now. Is it because of the AA -filter? When going closer though the results are very good even at f/1.2. 2x Canon 6D, Sigma 35mm f/1.4, Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART, EF 85mm f/1.8, EF 135 F/2.0
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bobbyz Cream of the Crop 20,506 posts Likes: 3479 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA More info | Nov 05, 2013 14:44 | #23 Patrick n wrote in post #16424991 Hi igora90, I just wonder, did you have sigma 85 mm 1.4 before? Did your sigma 85s can take full body portrait with very sharp photo? Thanks. sigma@f1.4. Just got my 85L and will try to do a side by side test next week. Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
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Patrickn Member 63 posts Likes: 2 Joined Aug 2013 More info | Nov 05, 2013 17:51 | #24 igora90 wrote in post #16425373 Yes I had. I used it with 5Dc and the full body portraits were very sharp. But after changing to 6D I had focusing problems with it so I changed it to 85mm f/1.2. Not seeing the same crispy shots that I got with the 5D+sigma now. Is it because of the AA -filter? When going closer though the results are very good even at f/1.2. thanks for the response igora90
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Patrickn Member 63 posts Likes: 2 Joined Aug 2013 More info | Nov 05, 2013 17:53 | #25 bobbyz wrote in post #16426930 sigma@f1.4. Just got my 85L and will try to do a side by side test next week. ![]() bobbyz, if you do some tests shots with these 2 lenses on full body portraits, please share with us some photos here, thanks.
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Ginga THREAD STARTER Senior Member 370 posts Likes: 1 Joined Feb 2013 Location: Jokkmokk - Sweden More info | Bah. I give up. Shooting full body shots at f/1.2 is simply impossible for me. Sony A7R * 70-200 2.8L II * 24-70L II * Samyang 14
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Patrickn Member 63 posts Likes: 2 Joined Aug 2013 More info | Nov 07, 2013 16:13 | #27 smile, not only you. I use my 135mm L more for outdoor, but for indoor, yes, 85mm L II is super!
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smorter Goldmember 4,506 posts Likes: 19 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia More info | Nov 08, 2013 12:19 | #28 hmm this seems like an unusual issue, the lens seems ok for me for full length shots - as others have said try MA, and if all else fails, manually focus Wedding Photography Melbourne
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igora90 Senior Member 923 posts Likes: 82 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Rovaniemi, Finland More info | Nov 08, 2013 12:36 | #29 Thanks smarter for your example photos. Must say that I'm maybe expecting too much as my photos look the same in terms of sharpness and crispiness, especially when compared with the second one. 2x Canon 6D, Sigma 35mm f/1.4, Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART, EF 85mm f/1.8, EF 135 F/2.0
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JeffreyG "my bits and pieces are all hard" More info | Nov 08, 2013 12:44 | #30 igora90 wrote in post #16435117 Thanks smarter for your example photos. Must say that I'm maybe expecting too much as my photos look the same in terms of sharpness and crispiness, especially when compared with the second one. Smorter's second example looks unsharp because the light is dull and flat. I notice sometimes people look at images with so-so light and start to question lens performance. The light in the first shot is pretty flat as well, so neither of these images are going to make the lens seem like it is super sharp. That does not mean the lens is not recording detail well. My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jngirbach/sets/
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