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POLL: "Which would you choose?"
17-55 f2.8
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Opinions: 17-55 f2.8 or 15-85??

 
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Nov 06, 2013 09:34 as a reply to  @ post 16429060 |  #46

My take:

If we are talking crop bodies only AND

you need the 2.8, go for the 17-55.

if you need the extra wide, go for the 15-85

in ALL OTHER CASES, go for the 18-135 STM.




  
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Nov 06, 2013 10:12 |  #47

Lbsimon wrote in post #16429060 (external link)
For what? If for getting more light in - you can just use higher ISO or use a flash. If for shallow DOF - you can use a fast prime. If you need to have both frequently - you surely need f/2.8, if not - the 15-85, assisted (when needed) by a prime lens and a flash would be a better choice.

I went that way. I use my 15-85 most of the time in a variety of lighting conditions. I shoot mostly static subjects and 4 stops of IS often serves me well in less than optimal lighting situations. When needed, I have my Sigma 30mm f/1.4:and Canon 50mm f/1.8..


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Nov 19, 2013 06:13 |  #48

msowsun wrote in post #16425888 (external link)
What is the weakness? I have taken hundreds (or even thousands) of very nice photos at 15mm and 85mm with this lens and I can't see any weak points at all.

You can compare the 15-85 and 17-55 on this site and check for yourself: http://www.the-digital-picture.com …p=736&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=0 (external link)

1/250 f/3.5 @15mm
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1/640 f/4 @18mm
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1/160 f/6.3 @85mm
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Brother , ur picture at 85mm is not sharp at all , how could u happy with it i wonder ;)

See my 17-55mm @ 55mm wide open f2.8

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I know photography isn't all about the sharpness , but i will rather get 17-55mm + any 70-200 is i really need a TELE , because 15-85 @ 85mm isn't that great in my opinion , and at 15mm the Distortion & CA very strong

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Nov 19, 2013 07:43 |  #49

chongkiat wrote in post #16463143 (external link)
Brother , ur picture at 85mm is not sharp at all , how could u happy with it i wonder ;)

See my 17-55mm @ 55mm wide open f2.8

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I know photography isn't all about the sharpness , but i will rather get 17-55mm + any 70-200 is i really need a TELE , because 15-85 @ 85mm isn't that great in my opinion , and at 15mm the Distortion & CA very strong

The distortion at 15 mm is very fixable in post and I find the CA much lower on my copy than on other zooms I have like the Tamron 18-270 and the Canon 18-200.


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Nov 19, 2013 08:18 |  #50

Eastport wrote in post #16429120 (external link)
My take:

If we are talking crop bodies only AND

you need the 2.8, go for the 17-55.

if you need the extra wide, go for the 15-85

in ALL OTHER CASES, go for the 18-135 STM.

I didn't vote, because I don't own either lens. There is a case to be made for both lenses, but if I were limited to a choice of one of these, it would be a tough call. The 15-85 is a good one-lens travel solution, but the 17-55 would be just about perfect for a crop wedding/party zoom. The Lenstip review of the 18-135 STM has the 15-85 as sharper overall than the 18-135.
I use fast primes for low light, but can see the value of F2.8 in a zoom. I also tend to want to travel with no more than one lens on the camera, so I can see the value of the larger range of the 15-85.
The solution is to get both lenses, or the 24-105L on a 6D.




  
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Nov 19, 2013 09:47 |  #51

artyH wrote in post #16463351 (external link)
I didn't vote, because I don't own either lens. There is a case to be made for both lenses, but if I were limited to a choice of one of these, it would be a tough call. The 15-85 is a good one-lens travel solution, but the 17-55 would be just about perfect for a crop wedding/party zoom. The Lenstip review of the 18-135 STM has the 15-85 as sharper overall than the 18-135.
I use fast primes for low light, but can see the value of F2.8 in a zoom. I also tend to want to travel with no more than one lens on the camera, so I can see the value of the larger range of the 15-85.
The solution is to get both lenses, or the 24-105L on a 6D.

Have never heard about Lenstip.com. I will need to check that out.

The 15-85 sounds like a really great lens. I may need to rent it myself. The only thing holding me back was its weight and size compared to the 18-135 STM. On the TDP charts, for whatever they are worth, these two lenses seem equal - sometimes one has more CA than the other, but on the sharpness side, depending on which settings you are comparing, they are either equal or one is better than the other by a hair.

The weight and size do mean something to me (but not more than IQ) since the only crop camera I have is the SL-1. So, if I am leaving home the 5DIII and the L lenses, I want the kit to be as light as possible. I guess I should rent the 15-85 (can't find it locally just to look at) to see whether the extra 95g really means that much. Probably not, I guess.

Did not have good luck with the 17-55. Far overpriced for what it gave me and then I moved on to full frame for serious work anyway.




  
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Nov 19, 2013 14:23 |  #52

17-55

constant aperature, fast aperature.

I've only ever used a 17-55 for a couple shots before I went full frame, but if I was still crop shooting I'd have it.

variable aperature lenses kind of drive me crazy.


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Nov 19, 2013 15:28 |  #53

chongkiat wrote in post #16463143 (external link)
Brother , ur picture at 85mm is not sharp at all , how could u happy with it i wonder ;)

I can only assume that you're joking with this ludicrous commment. Unless you're pixel-peeping the images produced both both lenses is almost identical.

I know photography isn't all about the sharpness , but i will rather get 17-55mm + any 70-200 is i really need a TELE , because 15-85 @ 85mm isn't that great in my opinion , and at 15mm the Distortion & CA very strong

You own and use the 15-85?
If not your opinion is baseless. The distortion and CA is mild at worst, and a one click correction in post.

The argument between these two lenses remains the same Range VS Constant f2.8. Only your own personal needs and shooting style can determine which is the best lens for a given photographer.


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Nov 19, 2013 16:59 |  #54

Owned both lenses, the build of the 15-85 was a lot better. The reach was very useful and great IQ, very sharp a little soft in the corners. 17-55, not as good build quality, very prone to dust inside the lens however the f2.8 was great and better in low light


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Nov 19, 2013 17:03 |  #55
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I have the 15-85 and voted for it. It works better for me. On the VERY few occasions that I need f/2.8 in this range, I take the excellent Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 off my 5D for a few minutes. IMHO, the 17-55 is just not worth what Canon is asking for it. The 10-22 and 15-85 serve me nicely.




  
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Nov 23, 2013 11:48 |  #56

Only those never own a 17-55mm f2.8 lens will say it over price, even in FF u stil cant get any constant aperture f2.8 with IS in canon lens range.


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Nov 23, 2013 11:54 |  #57

unistudent1962 wrote in post #16464425 (external link)
I can only assume that you're joking with this ludicrous commment. Unless you're pixel-peeping the images produced both both lenses is almost identical.

You own and use the 15-85?
If not your opinion is baseless. The distortion and CA is mild at worst, and a one click correction in post.

The argument between these two lenses remains the same Range VS Constant f2.8. Only your own personal needs and shooting style can determine which is the best lens for a given photographer.

I didnt own one but my friend did it, he even share us the information about the weak point in 15-85mm @ 85mm vs his old 70-200mm f4 non-is @ 85mm

And pls look carefully about the pic back, that shot isnt sharp my friend, it already lose some detail, pls view it at large pic

B4 i grab my 1755, i dilemma between this 2, end up i grab 1755 used unit + 85mm f1.8

Im very happy til today ^_^ , thx god that i didnt grab the 15-85mm


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Nov 23, 2013 11:56 |  #58

chongkiat wrote in post #16474369 (external link)
Only those never own a 17-55mm f2.8 lens will say it over price, even in FF u stil cant get any constant aperture f2.8 with IS in canon lens range.

That is very true. The 17-55 is generally considered a terrific lens. The only negatives I'm aware of is the occasional complaint of dust accumulation. Yes it's not an inexpensive lens, but its superior IQ, build, and constant f/2.8 make it not only reasonably priced but perhaps even a bargain. The main reason I chose the 15-85 over it was my need for a great focal range as a general walk around lens.


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Nov 23, 2013 18:09 |  #59

chongkiat wrote in post #16474369 (external link)
Only those never own a 17-55mm f2.8 lens will say it over price, even in FF u stil cant get any constant aperture f2.8 with IS in canon lens range.

Really? I owned the 17-55. It was overpriced for what it provided. The 18-135 STM is a bargain and, if you can live without the 2.8, is a better choice for most people.




  
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Nov 23, 2013 18:19 |  #60

There's a 3rd option to consider for a crop zoom, the 17-40mm L.

Having used the 15-85mm and 17-40mm on my 7D. The 15-85mm is a sharp lens but the 17-40mm has colours with more realism and pop. For this reason I'd probably stick with the 17-40mm L lens as a crop zoom.
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http://www.parkcamper.​com …sus-17-40L-comparison.htm (external link)

kingbob734 wrote in post #16464662 (external link)
Owned both lenses, the build of the 15-85 was a lot better. The reach was very useful and great IQ, very sharp a little soft in the corners. 17-55, not as good build quality, very prone to dust inside the lens however the f2.8 was great and better in low light

My 15-85mm had plenty of issues with dust... I find it hard to believe the 17-55mm could be worse.

chongkiat wrote in post #16463143 (external link)
I know photography isn't all about the sharpness , but i will rather get 17-55mm + any 70-200 is i really need a TELE , because 15-85 @ 85mm isn't that great in my opinion , and at 15mm the Distortion & CA very strong

The 15-85mm is very sharp at the wide end. Which is the most important side of the lens if you're using it for travel and urban photography, which it is well suited for. At the 85mm end, it has very attractive bokeh even though it's just a 5.6 lens.

My only issue with the 15-85mm, was that it tends to give colours a bit of a dark tint. An L lens like the 17-40mm has very accurate colours and better edge sharpness.


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