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Aug 07, 2020 19:11 |  #1876

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I did a bit of googling. Evidently (and I hadn't realised this) for most DSLRs in live view (and presumably mirrorless), AF is done with the lens at the aperture it will be exposed at, not wide open as with phase detect. So you are right that focus shift is not an issue for mirrorless cameras (or DSLRs in live view).

I suppose what I don't get is why DSLRs in phase detect AF don't use the actual aperture (instead of wide open) when the lens is set at, say, f/2.8 or wider. Clearly f/2.8 is plenty of light for phase detect to be effective. And that would virtually eliminate focus shift issues.


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Aug 07, 2020 19:17 |  #1877

Pippan wrote in post #19105431 (external link)
I suppose what I don't get is why DSLRs in phase detect AF don't use the actual aperture (instead of wide open) when the lens is set at, say, f/2.8 or wider. Clearly f/2.8 is plenty of light for phase detect to be effective. And that would virtually eliminate focus shift issues.

That information is above my pay grade.

Probably has to do with amount of light getting to the AF sensor so that AF speed can be achieved as quickly as possible. Thus needing to keep aperture full wide. But I'm just taking a wild guess here.


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Aug 07, 2020 19:37 |  #1878

Pippan wrote in post #19105431 (external link)
I suppose what I don't get is why DSLRs in phase detect AF don't use the actual aperture (instead of wide open) when the lens is set at, say, f/2.8 or wider. Clearly f/2.8 is plenty of light for phase detect to be effective. And that would virtually eliminate focus shift issues.

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That information is above my pay grade.

Probably has to do with amount of light getting to the AF sensor so that AF speed can be achieved as quickly as possible. Thus needing to keep aperture full wide. But I'm just taking a wild guess here.

Yes it does (well not so much the amount of light but the angle at which it hits the AF sensor), but since many lenses, including many 'pro' lenses, have a maximum aperture of f/2.8, you'd think that would provide enough angle of light for effective AF. But we (well, I) digress ...


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Aug 08, 2020 00:25 |  #1879

jwcdds wrote in post #19105400 (external link)
Should be good with any mirrorless. The primary fault of the 50L was the focus shift at closer distances. But that's based off of the old phase-detection AF. Since mirrorless is based on sensor contrast-detection, the focus-shift issue doesn't come into play.

Thank you for explaining this.


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Aug 08, 2020 22:20 |  #1880

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Aug 15, 2020 01:40 |  #1884

@Julian, your drawings are amazing!

With 5D

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Aug 16, 2020 00:30 |  #1885

Finished #5.

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Took a day off as a break but also to find the next subject. Sketch #6 starting to take form...

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Aug 16, 2020 13:42 |  #1886

And that's a wrap for #6.

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Aug 17, 2020 22:39 |  #1887

Just "finished" this one about 30 minutes ago. I put it in quotes since I'm never really 100% done with any of my drawings...

#7

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Aug 18, 2020 01:11 |  #1888

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Aug 20, 2020 01:21 |  #1889

Just wrapped up #8

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Aug 20, 2020 23:56 |  #1890

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