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Sony a7(R): Best thing that happened to Canon users this year.

 
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Dec 03, 2013 04:40 |  #346

fondled one on Sunday. feels much nicer to hold than I feared it might. the scroll wheels don't feel as natural to operate as the Canon and Nikon bodies I've gotten used to. but then I don't think that would be a problem for the slow paced landscape/macro work I'd be using it for. The Planar T* 50mm focussed quickly too.

the vertical grip though feels as terrible as it looks tacky.

What's all the hubbub about the shutter noise? it's near silent.


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Dec 03, 2013 07:46 |  #347

navydoc wrote in post #16497404 (external link)
Whew, I thought my monitor was broken there for a moment. ;)

There doesn't seem to be much advantage the using the Metabones adapter with Canon lenses if it focuses so slowly that manual focus is the preferred method anyway. I believe dtufino is using a cheaper adaptor that's good for mf only? What adaptor is that again?

I think other key advantages with the metabones is you get full communication between lens and camera including full aperture control and EXIF data. A dumb adapter means you don't have in-camera control of aperture. Slightly less-dumb adapters have a lever that you manually slide to open and close aperture (this is the kind of adapter Canon users use to mount newer Nikon lenses like the 14-24mm). But, being able to set the aperture in camera is enough to justify the higher price of the metabones, I think.


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Dec 03, 2013 07:47 |  #348

mzondeki wrote in post #16497114 (external link)
^David, nice shots. How easy is it to Manual Focus on A7 ? I am using lots of MF lenses with 5Dc with AF confirm adapter. Wondering if MF experience will be better with A7(r).

Focus peaking with the EVF is AMAZING and really easy.... this is my first time doing manual focus and i actually like it!


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Dec 03, 2013 07:50 |  #349

navydoc wrote in post #16497404 (external link)
Whew, I thought my monitor was broken there for a moment. ;)

There doesn't seem to be much advantage the using the Metabones adapter with Canon lenses if it focuses so slowly that manual focus is the preferred method anyway. I believe dtufino is using a cheaper adaptor that's good for mf only? What adaptor is that again?

I'm using this one....
http://www.adorama.com​/PROLAEOSNEX.html (external link)

since the camera cannot control the aperture, make sure you use your Canon camera to "Pre-set" the aperture on the lens, I set my 85mm to 2.8. mounted and started using it.


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Dec 03, 2013 08:53 |  #350

Very interestng and thank you for all these pictures! Finally I see more than light at the end of my FD lens barrel!

Would it be possible for you to compare photos with Sony's E mount 50mm 1.8 OSS with the FD 50mm 1.8 or the Sony E mount 35mm macro with the FD 50mm/3.5 macro? Or maybe put a FD/EF blunderbuss 300mm/f4 or 400mm/f4.5 teles and see how good the results are?

One last question for now please: How would you rate picture quality of the NEX7 with the Alpha7 (both with 24mp sensors)? Is AF speed and accuracy any different? Is low light picture quality different?
Thanks again so much!




  
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Dec 03, 2013 09:08 |  #351

I know my metabones lets me use IS on my lenses too.


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Dec 03, 2013 09:18 as a reply to  @ peteg1's post |  #352

Sorry, Khukri, but my testing days are over.... i'm out here shooting.... :-)

In terms of the NEX& (which i've owned before) the Sony A7 has FAR superior image quality compared.


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Dec 03, 2013 09:21 as a reply to  @ peteg1's post |  #353

Thanks for the clarification of the advantages and disadvantages between the Metabones adapter and the "dumb" one.


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Dec 03, 2013 10:31 |  #354

No doubt many (if not most) A7/R users will be using non-native lenses with adapters - some very heavy DSLR lenses. It will be interesting to see how the A7/R's lens mount holds up under that load.

Lloyd Chambers suggests that the extra thickness (29mm) of the Canon/Nikon-mount adapters will put more torque on the mount than when heavy lenses are mounted natively and directly to the mount: http://diglloyd.com …lens-options-support.html (external link) . He isn't stating anything definite; just that it is a concern to be watchful for.

If users practice good shooting posture and fully support the lens during shooting, I imagine it should never be a problem.


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Dec 03, 2013 10:35 |  #355

David Arbogast wrote in post #16498115 (external link)
No doubt many (if not most) A7/R users will be using non-native lenses with adapters - some very heavy DSLR lenses. It will be interesting to see how the A7/R's lens mount holds up under that load.

Lloyd Chambers suggests that the extra thickness (29mm) of the Canon/Nikon-mount adapters will put more torque on the mount than when heavy lenses are mounted natively and directly to the mount: http://diglloyd.com …lens-options-support.html (external link) . He isn't stating anything definite; just that it is a concern to be watchful for.

If users practice good shooting posture and fully support the lens during shooting, I imagine it should never be a problem.

I don't know. I'd be putting small rangefinder lenses on the full frame sony bodies.

Does metabones have an adapter for pentax K lenses which would stop down the diaphragm?


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Dec 03, 2013 10:43 |  #356

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I don't know. I'd be putting small rangefinder lenses on the full frame sony bodies.

Does metabones have an adapter for pentax K lenses which would stop down the diaphragm?

i agree, i have the 85mm f1.8 lens and a 100mm fd lens on it... not as heavy as any of my L lenses....


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Dec 03, 2013 10:48 as a reply to  @ dtufino's post |  #357

The nifty fifty is a perfect match for the body with adapter. Manual focus only though.


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Dec 03, 2013 10:49 |  #358

Zethar wrote in post #16498153 (external link)
The nifty fifty is a perfect match for the body with adapter. Manual focus only though.

The 100MM f/2.8 fd lens is awesome match... will post photos later taken with the 100mm FD lens.


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Dec 03, 2013 11:12 |  #359

David, thanks for all the sample photos.

Definitely been interested in this camera since it's been announced so been reading up on it even though I just bought a 5dm3! :)


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Dec 03, 2013 11:16 |  #360

MrClark7 wrote in post #16497250 (external link)
aw geez, just cuz of these images im going to look into this camera.

What about these images makes you want this camera?


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