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Sony a7(R): Best thing that happened to Canon users this year.

 
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Jan 20, 2014 18:15 |  #1216

^ Lost AF / IS function / EXIF data etc, are not a big deal; but lost Infinity focus with any adapter will be very very irritable.


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Jan 20, 2014 19:43 |  #1217
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I had a camera store owner work his demo charm and try to persuade me to sell off the d800e and get the a7r. It's nice in the hand and the focusing was interesting. He had a 50 Summicron on it and was shooting in monochrome. Then I started reading the reviews. As far as I can tell not much is going to out perform the d800e and zeiss ZF lenses. It's a clean working system from capture to print.




  
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Jan 20, 2014 20:38 |  #1218

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I had a camera store owner work his demo charm and try to persuade me to sell off the d800e and get the a7r. It's nice in the hand and the focusing was interesting. He had a 50 Summicron on it and was shooting in monochrome. Then I started reading the reviews. As far as I can tell not much is going to out perform the d800e and zeiss ZF lenses. It's a clean working system from capture to print.

I agree with your assessment. I will say, however, that the a7Rs real magic is in the whole manual focusing experience. On a tripod a DSLR in LiveView is easy to focus, but nothing beats the manual focus tools in the a7R's superb EVF. Really, you should keep the D800E for tripod work and get an a7R for handheld shooting. :)


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Jan 20, 2014 20:38 |  #1219

More and more I feel that people should use both Canon & Nikon system together to get the best result if possible.

Sony a7 / a7R is best bridge between Canon & Nikon.

For Zeiss lens, I'll stay with Canon EF mount as it get all exif and electronic control of lens, too.


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Jan 20, 2014 22:22 |  #1220
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David Arbogast wrote in post #16622474 (external link)
I agree with your assessment. I will say, however, that the a7Rs real magic is in the whole manual focusing experience. On a tripod a DSLR in LiveView is easy to focus, but nothing beats the manual focus tools in the a7R's superb EVF. Really, you should keep the D800E for tripod work and get an a7R for handheld shooting. :)

I've gotten pretty good at manual focus without focusing tools. The a7r focus is helpful and it's a better street camera from a functional standpoint but I've been lusting for a Xpan for street and I have a Shen-Hao 6x17 for tripod work.




  
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Jan 21, 2014 03:50 |  #1221

Zeiss 1.4/35:

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Jan 21, 2014 06:19 |  #1222

David Arbogast wrote in post #16617200 (external link)
By the way, I use the x-rite color checker passport to make a Lightroom color profile for my a7 today and I am very pleased with the color rendition of the a7 now. I had had some concerns about certain colors (some of my skies were looking very cyan), but the color profile fixes that to my satisfaction.

I'm glad you're using the X-rite color checker passport. I use it for everything I do. :) It's an extra step in my workflow to reassure color accuracy.




  
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Jan 21, 2014 06:20 |  #1223

^^Nice shots there X-Tan. Love the first and third shots. :)




  
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Jan 21, 2014 08:38 |  #1224

jdizzle wrote in post #16623332 (external link)
I'm glad you're using the X-rite color checker passport. I use it for everything I do. :) It's an extra step in my workflow to reassure color accuracy.

After making a color profile for both my cameras, I created a LR processing preset with some basic settings I prefer as a default, including basic sharpening as well as the camera's color profile. When importing to LR the processing preset is automatically applied, so it really takes a minimal effort to utilize. And it's well worth the effort. :)


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Jan 21, 2014 09:15 |  #1225

Question: At some point I was out shooting and I must have done something to make the electronic level disappear from the EVF (still shows on the LiveView screen). How do I get that back?


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Jan 21, 2014 09:22 |  #1226

David Arbogast wrote in post #16623686 (external link)
Question: At some point I was out shooting and I must have done something to make the electronic level disappear from the EVF (still shows on the LiveView screen). How do I get that back?

press the back scroll wheel UP.... and then UP again ad then Up again... until it appears, if it does not, go into the menus and enable it.


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Jan 21, 2014 09:33 |  #1227

dtufino wrote in post #16623705 (external link)
press the back scroll wheel UP.... and then UP again ad then Up again... until it appears, if it does not, go into the menus and enable it.

That fixed it. Thank you! :)


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Jan 21, 2014 17:19 |  #1228

David Arbogast wrote in post #16623602 (external link)
After making a color profile for both my cameras, I created a LR processing preset with some basic settings I prefer as a default, including basic sharpening as well as the camera's color profile. When importing to LR the processing preset is automatically applied, so it really takes a minimal effort to utilize. And it's well worth the effort. :)

Excellent!! Edit less, shoot more! :)




  
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Jan 21, 2014 20:08 |  #1229

More Otus stuff from this afternoon:

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Jan 21, 2014 20:33 as a reply to  @ David Arbogast's post |  #1230

Wow, those are super sharp David. I'm curious though, do you recall what color the walls were? On my monitor, there is a bluish cast to them.


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