Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Weddings & Other Family Events 
Thread started 07 Nov 2013 (Thursday) 15:04
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

ISO Question

 
puggle
Senior Member
Avatar
325 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 11
Joined Jun 2008
Location: New Jersey, USA
     
Nov 07, 2013 15:04 |  #1

Normally, I set my ISO manually and make necessary adjustments as conditions call for it.

I have not tried the Auto - Range feature on my 5DIII where you set the minimum and maximum, and let the camera decide.

I'm inclined NOT to use it, but curious if anyone else has tried it with any success.

If so, has it helped? Do you like it?


Puggle
---------
Canon 1DXmkII, 5DmkIV, Sony A7rII, PhaseOne XF IQ100, PhaseOne 645DF+D

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
frugivore
Goldmember
3,089 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 118
Joined Aug 2010
Location: Toronto, Canada
     
Nov 07, 2013 15:28 |  #2

It works astonishingly well. I always use it when in Av without a flash. You'll still need to adjust EC in most cases, however.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
nicksan
Man I Like to Fart
Avatar
24,738 posts
Likes: 53
Joined Oct 2006
Location: NYC
     
Nov 07, 2013 20:43 |  #3

It work well in Av mode.
That said, I rarely use Auto ISO. Just prefer to set it myself. Also, half the time I am in M mode and Auto ISO doesn't cut it.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
frugivore
Goldmember
3,089 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 118
Joined Aug 2010
Location: Toronto, Canada
     
Nov 07, 2013 22:07 |  #4

nicksan wrote in post #16433469 (external link)
It work well in Av mode.
That said, I rarely use Auto ISO. Just prefer to set it myself. Also, half the time I am in M mode and Auto ISO doesn't cut it.

Yes, but just wait until the 5D3 gets EC with auto ISO!




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Trent ­ Gillespie
Senior Member
Avatar
589 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Colorado
     
Nov 08, 2013 00:07 as a reply to  @ frugivore's post |  #5

I use Auto ISO in Av mode 95% of the time now. With the ability to set the minimum shutter speed, I don't see why you wouldn't use it. It has saved a few shots here in there when lighting changes dramatically and I don't notice my needle.

You should definitely play around with it, if you shoot in Av or Tv. While its somewhat usable in M mode, it works better in those program modes.


Trent Gillespie
Denver Wedding Photographer (external link)
Gear in the Bag (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dmitrim
Senior Member
Avatar
594 posts
Gallery: 13 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 50
Joined Jun 2006
Location: Toronto,ON
     
Nov 08, 2013 00:41 |  #6

can't give my camera any way to do anything on its own so I always shoot in manual.
Once you shoot a lot, you can just switch settings on the fly without looking,while you are shooting.
I rather have a shot at ISO 100 and 1/160s than ISO 1000 at 1/800s


Facebook (external link)
www.dmitrimarkine.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Trent ­ Gillespie
Senior Member
Avatar
589 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Colorado
     
Nov 08, 2013 00:45 |  #7

dmitrim wrote in post #16433897 (external link)
I rather have a shot at ISO 100 and 1/160s than ISO 1000 at 1/800s

Which is precisely what Auto ISO does :rolleyes:


Trent Gillespie
Denver Wedding Photographer (external link)
Gear in the Bag (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tim
Light Bringer
Avatar
51,010 posts
Likes: 375
Joined Nov 2004
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
     
Nov 08, 2013 01:25 |  #8

I found it annoying for post processing, every image is different. I shoot manual, much much easier for post processing.


Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
Read all my FAQs (wedding, printing, lighting, books, etc)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dmitrim
Senior Member
Avatar
594 posts
Gallery: 13 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 50
Joined Jun 2006
Location: Toronto,ON
     
Nov 08, 2013 10:27 |  #9

Trent Gillespie wrote in post #16433900 (external link)
Which is precisely what Auto ISO does :rolleyes:

now think about it again...
next time you roll your eyes, make sure you can back it up


Facebook (external link)
www.dmitrimarkine.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Nathan
Can you repeat the question, please?
Avatar
7,900 posts
Gallery: 18 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 361
Joined Aug 2007
Location: Boston
     
Nov 08, 2013 10:43 |  #10

puggle wrote in post #16432720 (external link)
Normally, I set my ISO manually and make necessary adjustments as conditions call for it.

I have not tried the Auto - Range feature on my 5DIII where you set the minimum and maximum, and let the camera decide.

I'm inclined NOT to use it, but curious if anyone else has tried it with any success.

If so, has it helped? Do you like it?

I've started to use it with my 5D3 this past year for events where lighting changes varies frequently (think cousin's outdoor resort wedding from late afternoon to evening in Cancun). That worked splendidly. There are some high ISO shots that needed noise reduction, but I can batch process those in Lightroom.

I just got the 5D2... not sure how well Auto ISO works on that.


Taking photos with a fancy camera does not make me a photographer.
www.nathantpham.com (external link) | Boston POTN Flickr (external link) |
5D3 x2 | 16-35L II | 50L | 85L II | 100L | 135L | 580 EX II x2

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
frugivore
Goldmember
3,089 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 118
Joined Aug 2010
Location: Toronto, Canada
     
Nov 08, 2013 15:26 |  #11

dmitrim wrote in post #16434725 (external link)
now think about it again...
next time you roll your eyes, make sure you can back it up

I'm pretty sure that auto ISO tries to keep the ISO as low as possible until the required shutter speed drops below the set limit. Then the ISO goes up one stop. Is this not correct?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Trent ­ Gillespie
Senior Member
Avatar
589 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Colorado
     
Nov 08, 2013 15:32 |  #12

dmitrim wrote in post #16434725 (external link)
now think about it again...
next time you roll your eyes, make sure you can back it up

Auto ISO works in Manual exposure mode as well. It selects the lowest ISO possible, while retaining an adequate exposure.


Trent Gillespie
Denver Wedding Photographer (external link)
Gear in the Bag (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rider66
Mostly Lurking
18 posts
Joined Jul 2013
     
Nov 13, 2013 10:58 as a reply to  @ Trent Gillespie's post |  #13

Quite agree, shoot manual, then batch processing is so much quicker


http://www.schwetzstud​ios.co.uk (external link)
Award Winning Wedding Photography in Buckinghamshire and London

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sandpiper
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
7,171 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 53
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Merseyside, England
     
Nov 13, 2013 11:49 |  #14

frugivore wrote in post #16435527 (external link)
I'm pretty sure that auto ISO tries to keep the ISO as low as possible until the required shutter speed drops below the set limit. Then the ISO goes up one stop. Is this not correct?

It may well be correct, but dmitrim said that he always shoots in manual. As soon as you set auto ISO you are no longer shooting in manual, you are in an auto mode that will adjust exposure as it sees fit, and can be altering it based on a change in the tone of a background or subject, whilst the actual exposure wanted has NOT changed.

Therefore, no, auto ISO does NOT do the same as shooting manual.

Trent Gillespie wrote in post #16435539 (external link)
Auto ISO works in Manual exposure mode as well. It selects the lowest ISO possible, while retaining an adequate exposure.

No, it doesn't.

Yes, you can set the auto ISO with the mode set to "M", but it is then no longer manual, as the camera is altering the exposure. Shooting "manual" means setting all three components yourself and shutting the camera out of the decision making process. "M with auto ISO" is another auto mode like Av or Tv, that just happens to use the "M" setting to access it. It is not "manual".

To go back to the OPs question. I don't like auto ISO, but I accept that it does have uses. I never use it on my 40D (which I believe has it in a more primitive form) and have used it twice on my 5DIII in over a year of ownership. Both times I used it I was shooting in a theatre and stage lighting was altering exposure significantly from shot to shot, so manual was not an option. I wanted the camera to handle exposure for me, but needed the aperture fully wide and wanted to set my minimum shutter speed myself. So I set the aperture wide open, shutter speed where needed from shot to shot (slower for stationary actors, faster for dance routines) and let the camera adjust ISO to cope with the stage lighting.

That allowed me to keep ISO as low as possible, and it was really useful in that situation. In other situations though, I am happier in manual, or using Av or Tv with EC, depending on the requirements.

As with all such features, auto ISO is a tool in the toolbox, it may or may not be one that you want / need to use much, but it does have its uses and can perform a function that cannot be achieved another way.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Nathan
Can you repeat the question, please?
Avatar
7,900 posts
Gallery: 18 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 361
Joined Aug 2007
Location: Boston
     
Nov 13, 2013 11:59 |  #15

By the way... what some people might find useful is that, in the menu settings, you can select your preferred maximum ISO value. For example, if you know that you can tolerate ISO 1600, but hate the look of 3200, you can tell your auto ISO never to go beyond 1600. I know this is available on the 7D and 5D3. I just got the 5D2 and I haven't looked for it in the menu settings yet. Not sure about other bodies.


Taking photos with a fancy camera does not make me a photographer.
www.nathantpham.com (external link) | Boston POTN Flickr (external link) |
5D3 x2 | 16-35L II | 50L | 85L II | 100L | 135L | 580 EX II x2

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

3,966 views & 0 likes for this thread, 15 members have posted to it.
ISO Question
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Weddings & Other Family Events 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1029 guests, 112 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.