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jdickerson
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Nov 08, 2013 10:02 |  #1

Hi All,

Anyone out there using the 20mm Color Skopar on FF or APS-C? Is it worth it or should I just wait for Canon to come out with a pancake 20mm? Not that them seem too motivated to do so. :rolleyes:

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Nov 08, 2013 10:17 |  #2

Check out the lens sample thread.
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=810539

I use it mostly on my 5D but, used it a few times on the 20D. I like it a lot.

I wouldn't wait for Canon if you want a pancake UWA.


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Nov 08, 2013 10:26 |  #3

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Nov 08, 2013 10:46 |  #4

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Scott,

Great stuff...I'm guessing that's not Wisconsin. ;)

I think you just sold me on the Color Skopar.

Thanks,

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Nov 08, 2013 10:51 |  #5

As long as your ok with manual focus I think you'll be happy with it.

Not Wisconsin but soon to be my new home :D


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Nov 08, 2013 10:55 |  #6

scottda wrote in post #16434802 (external link)
As long as your ok with manual focus I think you'll be happy with it.

Not Wisconsin but soon to be my new home :D

North Cascades? Colorado Rockies? Where ever...it's lovely!

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Nov 08, 2013 10:59 |  #7

Colorado


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Nov 08, 2013 12:24 |  #8

scottda wrote in post #16434836 (external link)
Colorado

Cool...Ann and I spent a couple of months there last fall. Mostly around Gunnison and the Ohio Pass area. Just incredible.

BTW, just ordered my Color Skopar from Samy's. I've been considering one for some time and your photos got me off the fence. I really like the mountain biking shot of yours on another thread. Ann and I ride a lot but like to stick to Rail Trails...the old bones are getting a bit too brittle for single track.:lol:

Thanks for sharing the photos.

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Nov 08, 2013 16:18 |  #9

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for canon to release a 20mm pancake. I had the Voigtlander and it was ok, but I didn't bond with it mostly because I'm more into normal and telephoto more so than wide angle. I loved the 40mm more.


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Nov 08, 2013 18:17 |  #10

I love my little Voigt 20mm.

It's very sharp in the centre, but a little less around the edges (on FF). If you insist on shooting landscapes wide open you'll be disappointed, the edges don't stand up. Learn to use it at wider apertures in the right situations and it'll be ok. But landscapes at f11 it's great. It does have a slight amount of CA at the edges and some distortion but how many lenses don't?

It's light, compact, and very well built. It is perhaps a tad overpriced but luckily I got mine at a very reasonable price. It usually gets slated on websites that test resolution, but most real world users that buy it and use it properly will stand by it.




  
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Nov 09, 2013 08:52 |  #11

Nalauk wrote in post #16435929 (external link)
If you insist on shooting landscapes wide open you'll be disappointed, the edges don't stand up.

I expect that would be true of most any lens.

Nalauk wrote in post #16435929 (external link)
Learn to use it at wider apertures in the right situations and it'll be ok. But landscapes at f11 it's great.

I've also found that focusing to infinity gives far better edge performance than using hyperfocal distance setting.


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Nov 09, 2013 10:30 |  #12

Nalauk wrote in post #16435929 (external link)
I love my little Voigt 20mm.

It's very sharp in the centre, but a little less around the edges (on FF). If you insist on shooting landscapes wide open you'll be disappointed, the edges don't stand up. Learn to use it at wider apertures in the right situations and it'll be ok. But landscapes at f11 it's great. It does have a slight amount of CA at the edges and some distortion but how many lenses don't?

It's light, compact, and very well built. It is perhaps a tad overpriced but luckily I got mine at a very reasonable price. It usually gets slated on websites that test resolution, but most real world users that buy it and use it properly will stand by it.

What do you consider a very reasonable price, I see them new in the $500 range.

Very impressive image Scottda, lots of detail


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Nov 09, 2013 10:51 |  #13

scottda wrote in post #16437072 (external link)
I've also found that focusing to infinity gives far better edge performance than using hyperfocal distance setting.

Yes, I'd agree it works much better at infinity - which is why I think it throws up poor results when photographing test charts as they are maybe only a couple of metres away max when tested.

Bianchi: As to the price I'm UK based, here it retails at approx 500 GBP ( which is about $750 ). That's because we normally have to pay more for various reasons ( VAT, import duty, blood out of a stone etc. ).
I picked mine up for 370 GBP which was much more palatable and closer to the US retail price.




  
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Nov 09, 2013 11:01 |  #14

I ordered mine, yesterday, from Samy's in LA for $549 new. I found a couple of cheaper ones on ebay, but they had a no return policy and I don't buy from those folks. I might have done better with more diligent shopping, but I trust Samy's and it'll be here Monday or Tuesday.

Thanks for all the great insights from all of you who piped up. Keep it coming!

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Nov 09, 2013 11:22 |  #15

BTW... I did not purchase the $45 hood. Instead I had a 52-58 step up ring and added a 58mm filter ring, sans glass, to make a smallish hood that extends enough to add a little front end protection.


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