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Nov 08, 2013 10:50 |  #1

This is a video from CNN that talks about how if photoshop editing has gone too far.

It does cause a standard of percieved perfection for women as well as men. It's not just that, for me I wonder if photoshopping has gone to far in a lot of other areas as well.

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Nov 08, 2013 11:57 |  #2

davidc502 wrote in post #16434794 (external link)
This is a video from CNN that talks about how if photoshop editing has gone too far.

It does cause a standard of percieved perfection for women as well as men. It's not just that, for me I wonder if photoshopping has gone to far in a lot of other areas as well.

http://www.cnn.com …piper-photoshop-video.hln (external link)

it is amazing how much 'virtual' plastic surgery can be done on a body with Photoshop (skills)
is it too far? magazines should probably disclose that PS is done on the photos but who is going to notice or will their customers care. Maybe they just want to see beautiful bods !




  
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Nov 08, 2013 12:07 |  #3

Personally, I think this anti Ps crusade is going too far.


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Nov 08, 2013 12:22 |  #4

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Nov 08, 2013 16:13 |  #5

Scatterbrained wrote in post #16435029 (external link)
Personally, I think this anti Ps crusade is going too far.

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And I think that most complaints are coming from ultra feminists. ;)




  
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Nov 08, 2013 18:03 |  #6

Osiriz wrote in post #16435636 (external link)
And I think that most complaints are coming from ultra feminists.

right, who doesn't want better feminine bodies




  
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Nov 09, 2013 00:06 |  #7

Scatterbrained wrote in post #16435029 (external link)
Personally, I think this anti Ps crusade is going too far.

That's an interesting statement, and I'm just wondering exactly what you think they're going too far with?

I have no problems at all with making the public aware of just how much photo's are photoshopped. I'm all for people knowing the truth, especially when there is an increasing mental problems with young girls and their self perception.

I doubt that forcing magazines to have a statement saying photo's are Photoshopped would do any good though. Most people know they're photoshopped a bit, but just how much they're modified is probably beyond most of the general public's knowledge, and a disclaimer isn't going to change that. It's not going to hurt, but in the same sense I doubt it will achieve anything.

However, I like the video they've released. It reveals to what extent some images are modified, and I can't see how simply showing how an image is edited is going too far.


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Nov 09, 2013 00:34 |  #8

adza77 wrote in post #16436562 (external link)
That's an interesting statement, and I'm just wondering exactly what you think they're going too far with?

The "unralistic expectations" meme is a moronic attempt to put realism into art that has gone too far. Exaggeration is an inherent tool in art. Arguing that real life can't catch up to art is either obvious or daft.

As a woman, I'm insulted by the assumption that I fail to understand that print media portrays an exaggerated image and am going to try to compare my body to this image. If were to do compare myself and ads, I'd seek mental treatment ASAP.


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Nov 09, 2013 10:09 |  #9

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The "unralistic expectations" meme is a moronic attempt to put realism into art that has gone too far. Exaggeration is an inherent tool in art. Arguing that real life can't catch up to art is either obvious or daft.

As a woman, I'm insulted by the assumption that I fail to understand that print media portrays an exaggerated image and am going to try to compare my body to this image. If were to do compare myself and ads, I'd seek mental treatment ASAP.

Are you a young girl? or a middle aged man? It makes a difference and just because you feel that way doesn't mean young girls don't.

Girls are reaching out and saying they've been affected, and fortunately there are people who will listen and track what's going on.


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Nov 09, 2013 11:11 |  #10

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That's an interesting statement, and I'm just wondering exactly what you think they're going too far with?

I have no problems at all with making the public aware of just how much photo's are photoshopped. I'm all for people knowing the truth, especially when there is an increasing mental problems with young girls and their self perception.

I doubt that forcing magazines to have a statement saying photo's are Photoshopped would do any good though. Most people know they're photoshopped a bit, but just how much they're modified is probably beyond most of the general public's knowledge, and a disclaimer isn't going to change that. It's not going to hurt, but in the same sense I doubt it will achieve anything.

However, I like the video they've released. It reveals to what extent some images are modified, and I can't see how simply showing how an image is edited is going too far.

That video is pure propaganda. It certainly shows the extend that things can be changed, but that doesn't mean that all those magazine images are edited that much. They intentionally picked someone who doesn't have a "standard" model physique and used Ps to make her that way, while also giving her manga eyes.

Issues like this don't make it to the mainstream news organically. Some powerful individual decides to make it a pet cause and starts peddling it around. This is no different than the nationwide anti bullying campaign that "suddenly" was all over the news.


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Nov 09, 2013 13:24 |  #11

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That video is pure propaganda.

What in the world are you talking about? It's a known problem and recognized as a problem in this industry. So, a news organization is bringing more awareness to this issue, and you call it "propaganda"?

I want to know what you are smoking to come up with that conclusion. :lol:


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Nov 09, 2013 13:31 |  #12

davidc502 wrote in post #16437596 (external link)
What in the world are you talking about? It's a known problem and recognized as a problem in this industry. So, a news organization is bringing more awareness to this issue, and you call it "propaganda"?

I want to know what you are smoking to come up with that conclusion. :lol:

Maybe you forgot what propaganda actually means. :confused:

The video was made specifically to highlight excessive Photoshopping. Listen to what they are saying. It's not like they came across some retouchers speed edit. The video was made for the sole purpose of creating a negative connotation towards retouching.


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Nov 09, 2013 15:29 |  #13

that video may be propaganda but it doesn't mean that it's less true. in this world photoshop any model either male or female is always done. No one has perfect skin and no one has a perfect body.

I don't seen any harm in a note at the bottom of the picture saying photoshop work has been done. Is that going to make a change, I don't think so.

should it be done. perhaps not but that's what advertising is all about. Creating a fake world around any product in hopes to sell it to poor muppets that are told to buy it.


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Nov 09, 2013 19:13 |  #14

davidc502 wrote in post #16437207 (external link)
Are you a young girl? or a middle aged man? It makes a difference and just because you feel that way doesn't mean young girls don't.

Girls are reaching out and saying they've been affected, and fortunately there are people who will listen and track what's going on.

Some deranged individual may say they've been affected by Picasso paintings.

Fortunately, there are professionals who will listen and offer qualified help to those individuals, and track what's going on. I have sympathy for them.

But I'm going to be against a PR campaign to ban abstract art from public eye and I'll point out that such PR campaigns are moronic.

Am I being clear in my analogy?

And in nations with severe prevalence of obesity, where metabolic syndrome is the major cause of death, body image issues should be dealt with by means other than just banning images of beauty ideals from media.


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Nov 09, 2013 19:29 |  #15

Scatterbrained wrote in post #16437614 (external link)
The video was made specifically to highlight excessive Photoshopping.

true, but photoshopping is routinely done on photos in magazines and other publications and it's tough to determine what is excessive without showing the original.
Maybe the video is more 'public service announcement'




  
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