LOL Canon 6D is more "retro" than the Nikon Df

There's been much ado regarding the Nikon Df, most of which I shan't regurgitate here. I will simply say that the fact that the Canon 6D accepts interchangeable focusing screens single handedly gives it more "retro" functionality & usability than the Nikon Df. Granted, if you're only concern is style the Df is the way to go. I can appreciate the appeal of dials and "retro" styling, I really can. But what's the point when you then have use the 39-point 3D tracking AF system to manually focus lenses faster than f/2.8?

Canon 6D. Pure photography when you want it. Impure photography when you don't. A lady in the streets but a freak in the bed, if you will.

I've been thinking the same thing once I read that stuff about the DF. There was something else that it lacked that I found extremely odd too, but now I can't think of what it was... but it would have been sweet if it came standard with a split prism focus screen.

If you take off the top plate with all of the retro looks and dials, it is just a typical DSLR (pretty much a D610 with a D4 sensor). When I saw the size of it I lost all interest.
I think the really funny thing is the people who claim "finally, I'm not having to pay for video features I don't want or need!". Nikon left of $5 in ports and firmware and still charged more than a D610... LMAO! Yeah, Nikon really saved you some money there...

BrickR wrote in post #16437711
If you take off the top plate with all of the retro looks and dials, it is just a typical DSLR (pretty much a D610 with a D4 sensor). When I saw the size of it I lost all interest.
I think the really funny thing is the people who claim "finally, I'm not having to pay for video features I don't want or need!". Nikon left of $5 in ports and firmware and still charged more than a D610... LMAO! Yeah, Nikon really saved you some money there...

Exactly. I don't get it either...

Photographers!: Don't all those instantaneous electronically controlled settings just get in the way of taking still photographs? Don't you constantly ask yourself: "why does this camera have a video mode, it's always impeding my ability to take still photographs, always, getting in the way all the time!" Wouldn't you like to have to stop what you're doing and take your eye away from the viewfinder in order to turn ye-olde-style knobs for every exposure adjustment? Don't you want a low megapixel sensor in a retro body that costs as much as one with a better sensor in a modern body? We here at Nikon have answered all of these problems that have been a plague on photography with the new Nikon Df (duped fool).

Honestly, I like the Nikon DF. I think its great that they are trying something different as opposed to regurgitating the same thing every year. Dont get me wrong, I love Canon cameras but I may have to pick this one up. The fact that it is manual makes you think a bit more about your shot. I was also considering getting a Leica m8 because I like the "retro" look and feel. But now I may just wait and see how this one feels and does.

milleniumking wrote in post #16437926
Honestly, I like the Nikon DF. I think its great that they are trying something different as opposed to regurgitating the same thing every year. Dont get me wrong, I love Canon cameras but I may have to pick this one up. The fact that it is manual makes you think a bit more about your shot. I was also considering getting a Leica m8 because I like the "retro" look and feel. But now I may just wait and see how this one feels and does.

Accept that it's still AF and has no aids for MF (like a precision focusing screen). I honestly think MF lenses make you slow down and think a whole lot more than having to turn some chunky dials. I usually wear glasses and thus often remove my eye from the VF in order to change settings anyway, I just don't get a camera like this for 5DIII pricing. If it was $2000 or less, I could understand it. As I shoot now though the only thing I ever change with my eye through the VF is the shutter speed anyway, or sometimes the ISO.

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16437948
Accept that it's still AF and has no aids for MF (like a precision focusing screen). I honestly think MF lenses make you slow down and think a whole lot more than having to turn some chunky dials. I usually wear glasses and thus often remove my eye from the VF in order to change settings anyway, I just don't get a camera like this for 5DIII pricing. If it was $2000 or less, I could understand it. As I shoot now though the only thing I ever change with my eye through the VF is the shutter speed anyway, or sometimes the ISO.

true, the price is a bit of a cranium scratcher.

Canon needs to to put digital innards in a AE-1 body. I'd buy that.

the flying moose wrote in post #16437958
Canon needs to to put digital innards in a AE-1 body. I'd buy that.

thats probably their next project, after the 7d mark ii, 5d mark 5 and 6d mark iii.

milleniumking wrote in post #16437926
...... The fact that it is manual makes you think a bit more about your shot......

....only that it's not. Put it in 1/3 stop mode and now you're back to using the dial on the front. It also has an aperture priority mode, shutter priority, and. . . .wait for it. . . . . programed auto. Yep. Let's not forget HDR and other "creative filters".

Granted what people really want is a retro looking camera, and that's what they've done.

LostArk wrote in post #16436647
There's been much ado regarding the Nikon Df, most of which I shan't regurgitate here. I will simply say that the fact that the Canon 6D accepts interchangeable focusing screens single handedly gives it more "retro" functionality & usability than the Nikon Df. Granted, if you're only concern is style the Df is the way to go. I can appreciate the appeal of dials and "retro" styling, I really can. .

Folks are too stuck on legacy looks...heck, the Olympus OM-D broke that ground before Nikon did! In reality...

there are thousands of Nikon film SLR owners with tons of legacy Nikon lenses which will mount directly (no adapter) to the Df body. These guys are EXCITED (I know a bunch of them, and they have said so!)

Same statement cannot be said of putting Canon legacy FD lenses on EF bodies...you need an adapter with optics (bad).

milleniumking wrote in post #16437956
true, the price is a bit of a cranium scratcher.

As for the price point, Df is a FF size body, and in comparison

• Nikon Df $2747
  
• Canon 5DIII $3399
  
• Canon 6D (an entry-level FF) $1899
  
• Canon 1DX $6799
  
• Nikon D800 $2799
  
• Nikon D4 $5497
  

Wilt wrote in post #16438096
Folks are too stuck on legacy looks...heck, the Olympus OM-D broke that ground before Nikon did! In reality...

there are thousands of Nikon film SLR owners with tons of legacy Nikon lenses which will mount directly (no adapter) to the Df body. These guys are EXCITED (I know a bunch of them, and they have said so!)

Same statement cannot be said of putting Canon legacy FD lenses on EF bodies...you need an adapter with optics (bad).

As for the price point, Df is a FF size body, and in comparison

• Nikon Df $2747
  
• Canon 5DIII $3399
  
• Canon 6D (an entry-level FF) $1899
  
• Canon 1DX $6799
  
• Nikon D800 $2799
  
• Nikon D4 $5497
  

(Prices as of a couple days ago via B&H)

It does bother me that a camera that is designed to directly accept manual focus legacy lenses has no aids for optical MF and no ability to add this at all(no precision focusing screen, no center focus aid like microprism or split screen, no replacement of focusing screen). Have to rely upon a focus confirmation light.

You should tell your friends that every one if their lenses can be adapted to any Canon DSLR via a $10 adapter oh, and you can swap focus screens with just about every one if them too

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16438171
You should tell your friends that every one if their lenses can be adapted to any Canon DSLR via a $10 adapter oh, and you can swap focus screens with just about every one if them too

But the Canon body will not be aware of the actual aperture selected on the lens' aperture control ring, so your EXIF data in the image is wrong (or blank). And if you use something like the Haoda focus screen with center focus aid, you ruin the spotmeter accuracy.


BTW, did I mention the fact that stopped down metering with MF lenses on Canon bodies can be horridly wrong, too?

I thought the retro Nikon was kind of cool until I saw the price.