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Is owning a Canon Rebel a joke?

 
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Dec 05, 2013 02:50 |  #451

I don't think many decides to sell everything and buy new. Even when people go professional, I bet they update their gear incrementally. Next thing is that a pro normally needs backup gear, in which case a Rebel can do reasonably well (a bit depending on type of photography).


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Dec 05, 2013 02:51 |  #452

Frodge wrote in post #16503000 (external link)
Lol! This is so true!

I see the prejudice blossoms - the same prejudice that resulted in this thread being created.

Are there really "less worthy" subjects to shoot?

Who are the mighty few who decides what is worthy subjects?

Who gave them the license to decide what is worthy subjects?


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Dec 05, 2013 03:39 |  #453
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unistudent1962 wrote in post #16502719 (external link)
Probably less so than those taking photos of thier cats or what they had for dinner with their 5DIIIs and 24-70 f2.8LIIs.

Although not my cat nor did I shoot this with a 24-70II, here's the reason why -

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I see the prejudice blossoms - the same prejudice that resulted in this thread being created.
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Agreed and well put.


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Dec 05, 2013 04:20 |  #454

kin2son wrote in post #16503038 (external link)
Although not my cat nor did I shoot this with a 24-70II, here's the reason why -

Not sure what point you're trying to make, if any.


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Dec 05, 2013 04:48 |  #455

pwm2 wrote in post #16503003 (external link)
the same prejudice that resulted in this thread being created.

I don't think there was any "prejudice" involved in this thread being created at all. It was simply a case of the OP being more worried about what others' perceptions of his gear was than what he was able to do with it.

If the images he is trying to capture are beyond the capabilities of the body he is using, ie higher frame rates, better AF, improved high ISO performance, then he has valid reasons to upgrade. Otherwise who really gives a s(!t what someone else thinks.


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Dec 05, 2013 07:11 |  #456

pwm2 wrote in post #16503003 (external link)
I see the prejudice blossoms - the same prejudice that resulted in this thread being created.

Are there really "less worthy" subjects to shoot?

Who are the mighty few who decides what is worthy subjects?

Who gave them the license to decide what is worthy subjects?

It's not prejudiced. It's the fact that there is a certain aura created when someone exclaims that rebels are junk and the person has a 5diii taking pictures of meals. You can take those pictures with a brownie. I'm not laughing at the subject, but the presumption and accusations people suggest about lower end cameras giving the type of photos they're taking.


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Dec 05, 2013 08:30 |  #457

unistudent1962 wrote in post #16503084 (external link)
I don't think there was any "prejudice" involved in this thread being created at all. It was simply a case of the OP being more worried about what others' perceptions of his gear was than what he was able to do with it.

Think again.

I was obviously not talking about the OP, but all the prejudiced people, who look down on Rebel owners. Do you think there would have been a need for this thread if not lots of people had been busy making fun of Rebel owners? Which is exactly the same thing as making fun of people who photograph cats.

If the images he is trying to capture are beyond the capabilities of the body he is using, ie higher frame rates, better AF, improved high ISO performance, then he has valid reasons to upgrade. Otherwise who really gives a s(!t what someone else thinks.

Have you really not noticed that a lot of people are giving a sh*t about what gear other people are using? We just got a post about suitable gear for food photography...


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Dec 05, 2013 14:02 as a reply to  @ pwm2's post |  #458

Okay people, I'll give you my personal decision for the Rebel "class". I am NOT a pro by any means. I am strictly an amateur that enjoys taking photographs. Because I am not knowledgeable I do a LOT of things wrong when going about taking photographs. Like a lot of others, I'm learning.

I like photographing model airplanes. Static shots are the usual fare, but action photos of a small model in flight are anything but easy. I have had to learn about lighting, panning, shutter speeds and positions. In the beginning I would just put my little XS in "sports mode" and start shooting. I turned the "view" off (still don't use it on any of my cameras) and the display all the way down to conserve battery power. I just got as close as possible and fired away. Using this "method" I have shot over 5,000 shots in one day at a large event. I figured (in the beginning) that I would get one keeper per 100 shots, in the beginning that was very optimistic! LOL! Small objects that allow only ONE of the focus points to be placed upon them and move at 60 to 150mph by you tend to be hard to capture. Takes lots of practice.

I didn't even realize that I WAS shooting so many shots at first. But in "continuous" mode - it doesn't take a lot of time to shoot a lot! As I've learned more and more about the workings of my camera(s). I have learned NOT to do this nearly as much and have cut down the numbers considerably. Reading this forum, I constantly read where the "pros" were very anal about having a "back-up" camera of quality for the times in which their main camera would fail on a shoot - and these guys only shot photos in the hundreds!! AND, these pros only used $1k cameras!

So I started to thinking about that. A lot. I finally decided to get a backup camera, hence the multiple cameras I now own. I owned a XS, bought a T3 off ebay. I use the T3 mostly now and keep the XS as a back-up. As cheap (cost - not performance!) as the T3 is, I reasoned that I would just rare back and shoot with it until the shutter quits or something major goes wrong, then just remove everything, lens, card and battery and drop the body in a trashcan and go get another T3 and go again. A shutter repair costs about $200 to $400 and I can now buy a new body easily for that price so no worries.

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Dec 05, 2013 17:21 |  #459

pwm2 wrote in post #16503346 (external link)
Think again.

I was obviously not talking about the OP, but all the prejudiced people, who look down on Rebel owners. Do you think there would have been a need for this thread if not lots of people had been busy making fun of Rebel owners? Which is exactly the same thing as making fun of people who photograph cats.

Have you really not noticed that a lot of people are giving a sh*t about what gear other people are using? We just got a post about suitable gear for food photography...

I must have missed the post making fun of people who photograph cats. I read a post about people who think they need a 5DIII and a 24-70 f2.8LII to do so. I'm sure that if you're a cat lover they make wonderful subject matter.

And the post about suitable gear for food photography (the context of which was people photographing their food before they ate it) suggested that you could do so with any camera. Do you not agree?

The only place I've noticed people who care about what other people use is on forums such as this. Perhaps I'm more involved in the process of capturing images when I'm out than worrying about what other people think about the gear I'm using. I certainly wouldn't be using their prejudices as a reason (excuse) for upgrading.


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Dec 05, 2013 17:37 |  #460
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unistudent1962 wrote in post #16504578 (external link)
I must have missed the post making fun of people who photograph cats. I read a post about people who think they need a 5DIII and a 24-70 f2.8LII to do so. I'm sure that if you're a cat lover they make wonderful subject matter.

I'd also bet 99% of rebel owners out in this world who think they need a rebel to capture whatever they are capturing is also a joke, because they could have done that with a P&S or even a mobile phone.

So your point being?

What goes around comes around buddy ;)


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Dec 05, 2013 17:39 |  #461

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I'd also bet 99% of rebel owners out in this world who think they need a rebel to capture whatever they are capturing is also a joke, because they could have done that with a P&S or even a mobile phone.

So your point being?

Same applies on FF users, who constantly believe in FF redemption....


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Dec 05, 2013 17:48 |  #462

kin2son wrote in post #16504607 (external link)
I'd also bet 99% of rebel owners out in this world who think they need a rebel to capture whatever they are capturing is also a joke, because they could have done that with a P&S or even a mobile phone.

So your point being?

What goes around comes around buddy ;)

My point being there's a lot of condescending wankers on forums such as this.


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Dec 05, 2013 18:05 |  #463

Just imagine what Ansel Adams could have done with a Rebel. Ignore the haters and enjoy your photography. A skilled photographer can create art with any type of camera.


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Dec 05, 2013 18:06 |  #464

Ethosb wrote in post #16504674 (external link)
A skilled photographer can create art with any type of camera.

This is sums it up.




  
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Dec 05, 2013 18:10 |  #465

Taken with my rebel t3. Shoulda went MKIII, would have looked so much better.

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