Where is fill light and recovery in LR 5.2

I recently upgrade from LR3.0 to 5.2
I'm used to the tools of recovery and fill lights slider, but I can't seem to find it on 5.2.
Can someone direct me to the right section?
Many thanks

Btw, (this might sound like I have buyer remorse), can someone share the different /improvements between 3.0 vs. 5.2?

I recently purchased a 70D and thought the 5.2 will bring more features that I can use. I also was hoping that with the 5.2 , I might not need to purchase PS or adobe Element to do any pp. I.e. block out unwanted object behind the scene, clone out any blemishes on the skin tone,etc

As you can tell, I'm still learning here. Much appreciate for the help

Highlights
Shadows
Whites
Blacks

The sliders stayed the same and do the same, they just renamed them and refined them.

Fill light is accomplished by turning the shadows slider "up"
Recovery is accomplished by turning the highlights slider "down"

And much better "tools" they are too, compared to the old sliders from PV2010 and before. I reckon that they are the MAJOR improvement in LR 4/5 over the older versions. I'm still on LR4.$ but the new method of operation of the spotting brush, allowing more than just circular spot healing is reckoned to be the big step between 4 and 5, along with radial filters.

Alan

Although at first glance that might seem to be the case, there really is a lot more to it than that. It wasn't just a sort of rebranding or renaming, more that they were replaced with significantly different tools that operate in relatively the same tonal zones but in quite different ways. LR3's Recovery for instance tended to flatten highlights and suppress details if pushed too hard and I would rarely go over 20 with it. Highlights, OTOH, enhances local contrast in the recovered highlights and brings out detail. In some images the harder you push it (to the left) the more detail you will find hiding in the highlights.

Shadows does more than just lighten the lower quadrant tones as did Fill. It also incorporates Laplacian Edge Detection algorithms to identify details and open them more than less detailed dark areas. Blacks is also now content aware and whereas Black in LR3 was an absolute 5 that frequently needed to be changed to fit the image, in LR4/5 the default 0 is a floating value relative to the image's native black point.

The biggest change is the new Exposure. In LR3 Exposure was a linear multiplier and if pushed too far would fairly quickly cause clipping and Brightness was on a curve. New Exposure combines features from both LR3 adjustments, and is a content aware / auto-adaptive curved adjustment that can do a considerable amount of midtone brightening without pushing the highlights to clipping.

If you ever get confused by what slider does what just mouse over the histogram. Each region is then highlighted on the histogram with the name of the region/slider at the lower left and the amount currently dialed in at the lower right.

many thanks for all the suggestions. I will continue to learn ...as time/kids allow me to. cheers

LR3 to LR4 was a huge change, LR4 to LR5 less so. I would get Martin Evening's LR4 book - he goes into great detail about the changes and the reasons for them. He has an LR5 book too and I am sure it is very good as well, but I have not read it and I don't know how deeply he gets into changes from LR3.

WC4Glam wrote in post #16440647
many thanks for all the suggestions. I will continue to learn ...as time/kids allow me to. cheers

It is worth the time effort. They completely rewrote the process engine for LR4 (which is the same in LR5) and it is much better than LR3. For me the (local) adjustment brush is worth the cost of the upgrade on its own.

If you want the old process and controls go to Camera Calibration (ctrl+8) and select Process 2010.

Here's a question that I cannot just go try. I know you can apply the new PV to old cameras and that is great. If you have one of the latest cameras which is only supported in the latest release can you still use one of the old PV's with the new camera? Not that I can think of any reason you would want to. It would not even help with open as smart object with an older version of PS as ACR still won't play.

Alan

"New" controls explained (compared with the old PV 2010 around 2:00)
http://mulita.com/trai​ning/hns-r/

BigAl007 wrote in post #16441565
If you have one of the latest cameras which is only supported in the latest release can you still use one of the old PV's with the new camera? Not that I can think of any reason you would want to.

You could (I can use PV2003 with my Fuji X100s), but as you said: I cannot think of any reason you would want to. PV 2012 is leagues better.