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The perfect travel kit, does it exist?

 
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Dec 02, 2013 10:35 |  #76
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Charlie wrote in post #16494942 (external link)
no doubt mirrorless can deliver the IQ, but it's also another expensive ecosystem.

the max I will tolerate is 24-70, 50, 135 (add accessories, and it's a rather heavy kit, but I love it).

I don't think mirrorless can match the quality and snappyness of that kit, for the occasional people photography. I'm sure it cant match the night photography of the 6D + 50L, just an amazing setup for night vision.

I guess it depends if you ever leave your gear at home or at the hotel because it is too much of a pain to carry. I have my X100 with me everywhere I go. Can that be said about your kit?

In fact, was out X-country skiing yesterday and had the X100 with me. Got some nice shots of snow covered trees. Would you take your DSLR kit skiing with you?




  
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Dec 02, 2013 10:35 |  #77

JeffreyG wrote in post #16493975 (external link)
I'm with Doc on this one, at least somewhat.

Your original plan was 14mm + 24-70 on a 1.6X format.

Now you are thinking about a FF 6D instead, but you are giving up some of the opportunity here by adding an UWA zoom (the 16-35L) to the kit. Keep in mind that your 24-70 on FF starts with about the same FOV that the 14mm prime was going to give you on 1.6X.

Do you really need wider that 24mm (FF) or 14mm (1.6X) on travels?

The light and quick set is this:
6D, 24-70, 70-200/4.

If you really do have to have UWA (and why did you not need it on 1.6X?) then think about:
6D, 16-35, 50/1.4. 70-200/4.

IMO the three zoom set of 16-35, 24-70 and 70-200 is getting a bit on the big and heavy side. If you can find a way to two lenses total, that is the best.

I am starting to come around to your way of thinking here. I have just ordered the 6D and I like your suggestion of the light and quick 2 lens kit. I think I could make that work in 98% of cases. I can live with a 2% loss of opportunity.


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Dec 02, 2013 10:38 |  #78

I generally take everything, in 2 backpacks, that i own...then when I get where Im going, I will usually wear the Black Rapid strap (dr2 or an individual) depending on what im carrying or doing that day. a DSLR and 24-105 L lens is a good option, maybe with a second DSLR and a Prime (pancake? 50mm?)




  
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Dec 02, 2013 10:54 |  #79

I used to bring around my DSLR on trips around the world but its just too big and bulky in the end. The 6D and 24-105 is a very capable setup. But then I have to add a flash at night and then it just becomes a very large camera.

My X100 is the answer, amazing IQ and extremely easy to carry anywhere. It is the default camera I grab on my way out the door and the one I end up using on vacation.


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Dec 02, 2013 10:56 |  #80

Brian500au wrote in post #16495193 (external link)
I am starting to come around to your way of thinking here. I have just ordered the 6D and I like your suggestion of the light and quick 2 lens kit. I think I could make that work in 98% of cases. I can live with a 2% loss of opportunity.

Photo journalists use 24-70 most of the time. 70-200 comes out only on press interviews, where they have to be far away.


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Dec 02, 2013 12:28 |  #81

Brian500au wrote in post #16492578 (external link)
Thank you for everybody's input, it has really given me food for thought. I will add a few extra bits to the argument though.

I am not interested in changing brands - not to say other brands don't have fantastic set ups, it is just I have invested both time and money in the canon brand over the years - both in lenses, and learning the 50+ menu options canon bodies have. I am just getting too long in the tooth to start over again.

I am also not interested in compromising in quality of the lenses. As stated I approach every opportunity as my only opportunity to take the shot - the kits needs to be reliable (and i need to be familiar with the equipment). I have already invested in quality lenses. The focal range needs to be covered and I already own a good range of "L" lenses.

Secondly in order to have the perfect travel kit you need to have it available and on hand when you travel. It does not have to be the entire arsenal you own, but I believe it should be 90% ready to walk out the door at anytime. You could be using it for other purposes but you know if you were hiking to Mt Everest base camp or sailing down the Nile in Egypt it would essentially be the same kit.

I also say the general travel kit. I stated I am a tourist who takes photos - I have not gone on a specific photography trip. Now if I did, I think it would be a different situation. If my prime purpose was to photograph lions in South Africa, or polar bears in Alaska, then I would hire the specialized equipment for that particular "expedition". Now if I was a tourist who spent a couple of days in Kruger National Park hoping to see a lion, then I would not need a specialized kit. In fact I have photographed lions with a P&S in a park next to Kruger - the pride was no more than 25 metres from our truck.

For those of you who say there is no (near) perfect photography travel kit - I disagree. I have traveled enough over the years to have my clothes packed in minutes. The only difference in back packing in Cambodia and trekking in the Himalayas, is I lose the sandals and throw in some good walking shoes and light weight down jacket. Everything else is exactly the same kit. I want to do the same with my photography kit

Given all the above I will admit there are some great suggestions in this thread. Over the weekend I went and tried out both the SL1 and the 6D. I like them both (a lot). In my original thread I listed what i thought could be the perfect kit, but I have revised it based on the below reasons (lets assume any brand equivalent - I have already stated my reasons for Canon):

Canon 6D - full frame which will mean I can use my 16-35 rather than purchase the 14mm I had planned if I used a 1.6x crop. Although heavier than the SL1 (which is insanely light) - it is lighter than my current 1DIV and still lighter than a 5 series.

Canon 16-35 f2.8 II (i own it already) and on a full frame will suffice me for inside temples and churches
Canon 24-70 f2.8 II (I own it already) and a great mid range focal length on full frame, (so sharp I could use it to peel an orange).
Canon 70-200 f4 IS - Now this is something I need to purchase, and the jury is out on this one. I have found I have never really missed this focal length when i travel on the 1.3x crop, but it may be a factor if I go full frame. Either way it is light and weighs less than the 135 + 1.4x I had originally planned. I have the 2.8 version but it is too heavy to travel with.

As it sits this kit weighs less than 3kg (6.5Ibs). If i drop the 70 - 200 lens, this kit would weigh around 2.2kg (under 5lbs). Add a small flash and my P&S back up and I think I could cover 99% of my travels and not regret my decision.

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There is no universal perfect travel kit. There might be a perfect travel kit for you though. There are probably several kits that are really good for you, and some other people's perfect kits that would be horrible.

Personally, to me the rebels are too small to be comfortable in the hands and the SL1 is even smaller. That said, 12oz is a LOT if you are backpacking or hiking a lot. The below crop kits trade speed for range. It would be ~2.4x longer than your kit with the 70-200. If you plan to do a lot of indoor church photography, you will be disappointed with how slow the kit is compared to what you've mentioned above with the 16-35 w/ 6D.

Just throwing some options out there to get your mind going.

16-480 FF equivalents, but slow.
6.25lbs gets you a 70D, 10-22, 17-55, & 70-300L.
5.5lbs gets you a SL1, 10-22, 17-55, & 70-300L.

Now, I present these not because I think they fit you well, but instead so you can make conscious decisions about what you are looking for (fast vs long).




  
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Dec 02, 2013 13:07 |  #82

vengence wrote in post #16495490 (external link)
There is no universal perfect travel kit. There might be a perfect travel kit for you though. There are probably several kits that are really good for you, and some other people's perfect kits that would be horrible.

Personally, to me the rebels are too small to be comfortable in the hands and the SL1 is even smaller. That said, 12oz is a LOT if you are backpacking or hiking a lot. The below crop kits trade speed for range. It would be ~2.4x longer than your kit with the 70-200. If you plan to do a lot of indoor church photography, you will be disappointed with how slow the kit is compared to what you've mentioned above with the 16-35 w/ 6D.

Just throwing some options out there to get your mind going.

16-480 FF equivalents, but slow.
6.25lbs gets you a 70D, 10-22, 17-55, & 70-300L.
5.5lbs gets you a SL1, 10-22, 17-55, & 70-300L.

Now, I present these not because I think they fit you well, but instead so you can make conscious decisions about what you are looking for (fast vs long).

Thank you for the suggestions above.

I still think there is a (near) perfect travel kit. When you compare the kits you are suggesting, and the kit I am working towards we are not far apart. In honest fact both of them tick the quality, weight and FL range.

I have just ordered the 6D as I feel that gives me the flexibility at the wide end FL. Although I have no doubt about the quality of the 17-55 lens, I already own both the 24-70 and 16-35.

The 10-22 has never been considered as I own a 1DIV and would not be keen on buying a lens that could not be shared between bodies.

I think the 70 - 300 could be considered although it is around 300 grams heavier and I am not a big fan of variable aperture lenses. I think if I need that end FL I could throw in the 1.4x tele and still keep a constant aperture at around the same weight.


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