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Lens choice is killing me!!!! Help please

 
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Nov 30, 2013 13:03 |  #1

I'm having a tough time trying to decide what lens to get. Right now I have a Sigma 17-50 2.8 and the canon 50mm 1.4. These are the only two in my bag at this moment due to selling old gear and getting new gear. I like to shot birds, wildlife and just about any out door stuff. So this is where I'm at. I know I want a 70-200 2.8 but not sure what brand. Canon without OS or the Tamron with VC. If I get this lens first I won't have allot of reach for birds. Now the Canon 400 5.6 seems to be best bang for BIF and will of course do other wildlife as long as its not to close. The next lens seems to be the 100-400 which will give me a wide range for now and allow me to do wildlife. But I here its a little slower on the focus and softer @ 400mm. I will be using the 70D. So my question is what lens 1st. I belive I will be able to get my next lens after this in about 4-6 months, so I just need to pick one to start off with.




  
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Nov 30, 2013 13:15 |  #2

The 100-400 was my first L-series purchase and 5 years on I still have that lens and never felt the need to upgrade it. Mine is sharp at 400mm and the extra wider range makes it much more versatile than the 400mm 5.6. Some people don't get on with the push pull action but I find it very easy to use. If you want the 70-200 and can stretch to the MkII 2.8 then you could always get a 2x extender and get 400mm that way and the sharpness wont be far off the other lenses.


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Nov 30, 2013 13:59 |  #3

the 100-400 is a great lens and honestly, any sharpness benefits the 400 5.6 might have on paper is not really applicable in real world situations (in my opinion, unless you are an extreme pixel peeper). That said, I think the 400 5.6 is a better choice if you are looking for a dedicated birds/wildlife lens. The 100-400 is obviously more practical if you want to use it for other situations. Both are great. Im thinking about adding the 100-400 to my kit at the moment. (I found it to be plenty sharp at 400mm 5.6)


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Nov 30, 2013 14:02 |  #4

If you want a lens that you can use on lots of things I'd say the 70-200 with your choice of extenders would be a great choice... especially on a crop.


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Nov 30, 2013 14:53 |  #5

For versatility (near/far:birds/mammal​s) you can't beat the 100-400; it's been my workhorse lens, now, for about 5 years and still producing wonderful shots. It would, overall, be my suggestion for the one to pick up first.

It, of course, works great for still shots, even wide open:

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It can do light duty as an "in flight" rig:
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Can certainly be used in darker conditions with great result, despite popular "knowledge", and the IS does help (rocking tour boat + heavy, overcast rainy):
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All while still giving the flexibility to zoom out if your subject comes inside of the 400mm range (and MFD, in this case), without having to swap out lenses:
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If you want to try and specialize in BIF shooting, though, I'd go for the prime first. The 100-400 certainly CAN be used for that purpose in a pinch (see above) and give some great results; but the AF is enough slower to make it not the ideal candidate for that purpose.

Another option that you *might* consider, in the same price range, would be the 300 f/4 + 1.4 TC. There are several members here that use that combination to great effect as well.

Overall, while there are pluses and minuses to any of these, you're going to be getting a FANTASTIC piece of glass regardless; and if you're planning to buy both, well...<shrug> Flip a coin, get one and get shooting! :D

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Nov 30, 2013 16:35 |  #6

I wish I had an answer for you, I'm having the same problem! LOL
Just got my 7D in the mail yesterday, so many lenses so many choices. Upgraded from the XS. I've gotten into motorcycle racing photography since several of my friends race. The 70-200 f/4 might be my next choice to swing.


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Nov 30, 2013 20:25 |  #7

70 - 200 with VC + Extenders.


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Nov 30, 2013 20:47 |  #8

How about a used Sigma 50-500 OS? Very versatile focal range and a great wildlife lens very comparable to the Canon 100-400L.


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Nov 30, 2013 20:47 |  #9

I just bought a 100-400 yesterday. I used to have an older Sigma 400mm prime lens, but I found that a zoom is more useful for me at this time. If you are looking to photograph primarily birds, go with the Canon 400 prime.


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Nov 30, 2013 21:27 as a reply to  @ dbricks's post |  #10

What about the 70-200 F4 IS


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Nov 30, 2013 21:40 |  #11

Not NEARLY long enough for most birding pursuits unless shooting from a static blind near a feeder/feeding spot.


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