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Dec 03, 2013 15:20 |  #1

Hi guys!

Ok, so I have my first paid shoot Sat. Its a mom and two daughters. My issue is that its going to be like 12 degrees outside and snowy. We will have to move it inside and am looking for locations at the moment. Aside from that, I need equipment advice. I will be using my 60D and either a 50mm 1.8 or my friends 70-200 2.8 (yeah if its availalbe ill definetely use it) I also have my Yongnuo flash and softbox.

So when it comes to DOF, if they are in the same plane eyes should be sharp even at 2.8, but I should vary the aperture in case some heads are leaning further forward then others... so like a 4? If they are staggered then definetely have my aperture like 5.6 or something etc...

When it comes to the flash, since it will be indoors, the same typical 45 degree and just find my correct exposure, but with woman and two babys, still stick with softbox or use shoot through umbrella?




  
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Dec 03, 2013 15:26 |  #2

get a depth of field calculator for your smart phone. Aperture info is not enough as it changes greatly based on distance and lens selection.

As for your lighting, if you are inside and you dont have the ability to balance the flash with the ambient its important to understand the positioning of the flash as the side shadowing will be deeper. Not hasher, but more noticeable as their is less light there from ambient sources.




  
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Dec 03, 2013 15:29 |  #3

Gonzo... yeah saw that on some xmas photos of my daughter in front of tree, dead o nto the camera, but softbox was at about 45 degrees.. noticable shadown on her right side of face, not bad...but definetely noticeable..but cant do softbox more direct to face though can I?




  
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Dec 03, 2013 15:37 |  #4

Why couldnt you? Flat light is often criticized here, but if you look at the beauty lighitng in the G and N forum you will see that more often than not the the lighting is somewhat even across the face, meaning the key light is somewhat on the same axis as the camera. Now I dont want to give you the idea that there aren't additional lights and refectors used to create highlights and shadowing in the glam stuff, but if you are stuck with one light having in on the camera axis isnt necessarily a bad thing. There is an old maxim for beauty lighting that the light should follow the nose, essentially the nose of the subject should be pointed at the light. So if your subjects are looking at the camera the flash/softbox/shoot through should be near the camera axis.




  
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Dec 03, 2013 21:47 |  #5

Gonzo, I see what you mean, judging by this pic of my daughter. softbox at 45 produces too much shadow on r side of face, agreed?

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Dec 04, 2013 08:31 |  #6

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Gonzo, I see what you mean, judging by this pic of my daughter. softbox at 45 produces too much shadow on r side of face, agreed?

That shadowing on her face is not bad at all. It might not be ideal, but certainly doesn't hurt the photo that much.




  
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Dec 04, 2013 09:16 |  #7

I agree with Gonzo, there's nothing wrong with that shadowing, and if you're bothered by it just add a reflector.

That said there's nothing wrong with frontal lighting, Tamara Lackey uses it a lot with a large softbox in front and just above the subject, and a reflector below for a bill of fill.




  
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Dec 04, 2013 12:04 |  #8

Nice guys, thanks! I will experiment with both to give myself options for the client. I think when I was learning more about off camera flash, I was watching Zach Arias (sp) say just to plant it arms reach out and over to 45..so thats mentally what ive been going with so far :) However i do have a 43 inch gold/silver reflector that i just got which im looking forwrad to using also.




  
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Dec 04, 2013 13:32 |  #9

Who am I to argue with Zach Arias? :) But I will say that with more than one subject in the shot you have to be very careful to select lighting that treats all the subjects fairly. When you have shadows projected to the side from the 45 degree angle you dont want the shadow from one subject being cast on the other.




  
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Dec 04, 2013 16:00 |  #10

Gonzo, true that makes sense and I would probably see thatwhen I got up there, so I would direct it more towards the middle and decrease power a stop or two (im guessing) looking forward to it :)




  
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Dec 04, 2013 16:03 |  #11

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Gonzo, true that makes sense and I would probably see thatwhen I got up there, so I would direct it more towards the middle and decrease power a stop or two (im guessing) looking forward to it :)

I'm certain you will do well. Keep in mind you can always default to the old clamshell lighting, with one light a bit above the camera and the reflector down below providing fill under the chin and brows. One light doesnt mean you cant be creative.




  
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Dec 05, 2013 20:41 |  #12

too bad its going to be sooo cold..

for outside:
get the 70-200 if you can.. this was shot @ 200mm 1/250 f4.5 580ex in an umbrella for fill....

you already have some great advice for inside :)

good luck!! post the results.....

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Gonzo, I see what you mean, judging by this pic of my daughter. softbox at 45 produces too much shadow on r side of face, agreed?
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