Boom issue: Octa too heavy?

I have a cheetah c-stand and have been interested in booming my PCB Octabox overhead. When I attempt to do this, no matter how hard I tighten the Einstein or AB unit, it won't stay in place. It slowly starts to roll downwards. For those with experience with the setup how do you get it to stay in place?

Ten Ounce wrote in post #16501276
I have a cheetah c-stand and have been interested in booming my PCB Octabox overhead. When I attempt to do this, no matter how hard I tighten the Einstein or AB unit, it won't stay in place. It slowly starts to roll downwards. For those with experience with the setup how do you get it to stay in place?

Hang the light upside down and/or use a baby drop down pin.

More weight needed in the counter balance?

Baby drop down pin like this? http://www.amazon.com …&psc=1&smid=ATV​PDKIKX0DER

drop pin like this
http://www.amazon.com …&sr=1-1&keywords=drop+pin

Do I need anything else for the end of the boom pole? It's just a regular tip like a light stand right now.

There is always the Kacey adapter which might help. . .
http://www.kaceyenterp​rises.com/?page_id=105​4

Ten Ounce wrote in post #16501321
Do I need anything else for the end of the boom pole? It's just a regular tip like a light stand right now.

You don't need anything extra. All you need to do is hang the light upside down - in doing so you eliminate most of the rotational torque.

The baby drop down pin is optional but worth getting as it adds convenience by maintaining the angle on the light as you tilt the boom up or down.

I went ahead and ordered the baby drop down pin. I'm all about convenience when I'm shooting in studio so I think i'll need one at some point or another. Thanks for the tips everyone!

On a side note, I tried to find a picture of the setup to do this without the pin but I couldn't find anything. How do you hang it upside down exactly?

Ten Ounce wrote in post #16501403
I went ahead and ordered the baby drop down pin. I'm all about convenience when I'm shooting in studio so I think i'll need one at some point or another. Thanks for the tips everyone!

On a side note, I tried to find a picture of the setup to do this without the pin but I couldn't find anything. How do you hang it upside down exactly?

Just rotate the light so the mount is on top.

Ten Ounce wrote in post #16501403
On a side note, I tried to find a picture of the setup to do this without the pin but I couldn't find anything. How do you hang it upside down exactly?

Do a search for "Avenger D600" (boom arm) or "Avenger E700" (baby drop down pin) and click on Images. You'll see lots of examples.

I tried searching that and those pics are with the pin. You mentioned being able to do it without the pin.

Ten Ounce wrote in post #16501688
I tried searching that and those pics are with the pin. You mentioned being able to do it without the pin.

I think you're over-thinking this.

IMAGE LINK: http://s103.photobucke​t.com …0286_zps7f4148b​9.jpg.html

Ah, I see. I probably don't have the ceiling height to do it that way if I'm suspending it above someone standing. I appreciate all the help everyone!

Ten Ounce wrote in post #16501688
I tried searching that and those pics are with the pin. You mentioned being able to do it without the pin.

Set up the boom so the arm is horizontal. The mounting pin at the end of the boom can mounted so that it's facing in the same direction as the boom or mounted crossways so that it's at 90 degrees.

Look at both photos 3 and 4 on this link:
https://www.cheetahsta​nd.com/Cheetah-Boom-p/cboom.htm

Mount the pin crossways as in photo 3, and then rotate the boom so that the pin is pointing down. Mount the light upside down and there you have it. With this setup it's easier to adjust the height of the light by raising and lowering the stand rather than the angle of the boom arm. It's workable, but you can see why the drop down pin is a good thing to have.