Photodawg1 Goldmember  3,059 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Maryland More info | Feb 04, 2006 18:48 | #16 I am kind of torn. I like the traffic because it includes the "neighborhood." But the solitary is stunning. You raise the bar...and looks like got those shadows on the run...now I have to go back out and spit in the wind...er, mean try to give you some competition... ______________
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HJMinard Goldmember  2,319 posts Likes: 7 Joined Jan 2004 Location: Port Huron, Michigan, U.S.A. More info | Feb 04, 2006 18:48 | #17 I vote for #2, but the first shot is excellent "as is". ~ Jay ~
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jimtfoto wrote: If you hadn't posted #2, I'd have given you a "nice capture" response to #1. Seeing the clone job in #2, however, opens up an area of PSing that has always kinda rankled me. I'd prefer to see a totally natural scene, be it with stray birds in the background, or an out of focus branch in the foreground, because that's just what it is ... nature ... a natural shot. On another site where we post our photos, several other photographers have made comments about our bird pictures along the lines of "I would have cloned out the branches" or cloned out other elements. Well, I wouldn't ... that's just the way I like them. It would be great if all birds posed on a solitary branch with marvellous, complementary background but, hey, that's nature. If a another species gets in the picture, take the picture. Whether you leave it in or not, is totally up to you. For me, I'm happy to let nature be natural. Apologies for the rant ... nothing personal ... I really do like both pictures ... and envy that you can capture these birds all winter. cheers, jim Jim - Jerry ~ Baseball is a game where only defensive players handle the ball and offensive players who hit successfully in only one third of their at bats are among the best in the sport.
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Thanks everyone for your excellent feedback and kind words. I really do feel fortunate to live in an area where we see scenes like this all year long. Did you see the pics of the alligators from the same day I got this GBH? That thread is HERE. Jerry ~ Baseball is a game where only defensive players handle the ball and offensive players who hit successfully in only one third of their at bats are among the best in the sport.
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jimtfoto Senior Member  779 posts Joined Apr 2004 Location: Toronto Canada More info | fslshooter wrote: Jim - I didn't clone anything -- #1 and #2 are from two different original exposures. If you look at them very carefully, you will see that to be true. If you cannot see the differences, then look at the EXIF data -- I shot #1 @ 2:59 PM (14:59:33) and #2 @ 3:01 PM (15:01:23). Jerry ... sorry about that ... looking back at the pix I can now see the subtle differences, i.e., position of breast feathers. I actually prefer #1 with the Coot, as a habitat shot, but both are superb images. www.pix2go.ca
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jimtfoto wrote: Jerry ... sorry about that ... Jim - No problem Jerry ~ Baseball is a game where only defensive players handle the ball and offensive players who hit successfully in only one third of their at bats are among the best in the sport.
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Photodawg1 Goldmember 3,059 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Maryland More info | Feb 05, 2006 13:42 | #22 Jerry, ______________
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. As for the GBH itself I like #1 better too and it's because the breast feathers and plumage are more detailed. But as others have said, the coot does tend to draw some attention and this pic is really about the GBH. I do wish I had stopped down, backed up some and got a habitat shot too. Not only were there coots and moorehens in the background there were a couple of turtles sunning nearby. Oh well, live and learn as they say.