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Dec 04, 2013 17:23 |  #1

Well, the Christmas season is again upon us, whether we like it or not. And I don't! So I have decided to annoy you all by penning this gripe thread about all the things Christmas.

First, the date. This is supposed to be, first and foremost, Jesus' birthday. It most certainly isn't! The Bible even says it cannot be. But I cannot go into detail because that would be religious and not allowed here. Let me just say that all evidence points to the real date being somewhere in late March through early April. Don't believe me? Go ask a shepherd.

Then there are the songs! Can't they even be logical? Take that damned little drummer boy! Ignoring the fact that beating a drum is one hell of a bad present for a newborn infant, why does he say that Jesus is poor? Nowhere in the Book does it say that Joseph and Mary, hence Jesus, were poor. Yes he was born in a stable and placed in a manger, but not because he was poor! It was because there was no room at the inn! You can blame Joseph for that. If he'd left earlier they'd have arrived before all the rooms were taken. Being poor had nothing to do with it. In modern times, he'd be born in the back seat of Joseph's car.

Next, the obvious commercialization, which gets worse every year. The fat guy in the red suit pushes every kind of expenditure there is, from simple toys [If there is such a thing as a simple toy any more] to luxury cars. Go out and buy your wife a new yacht for Christmas! She'll love you forever!

'Tis the season to be jolly. Deck the halls with hunks of holly. Pray we all it shall not end, as we go out to spend and spend!

Next, the colors: red and green. If there were ever clothing colors guaranteed to not flatter anyone, these are they! But everyone's dear old Aunt Fanny insists on kitting them a gaudy sweater or vest in just those colors. My Aunt Fanny, indeed!

And the damned red and green, not being content to bespoil our appearances, spread vigorously throughout the environs to further affront our eyes. There is no respite, no escape! We are all doomed!

Hell! At many a city intersection we are hard put to find the red and green traffic signals among all the red and green holiday lights!

Then there's the fat guy himself. "He sees you when you are sleeping. He knows when you're awake." Do you really want some fat old man who lives with "elves" [and is indeed an elf himself—read the poem!] stalking your children night and day?

And what about this naughty and nice list? By whose authority does he judge your children and determine who gets a present and who doesn't? Bushwah! Give me the Easter Bunny any day. You want eggs? You got eggs, no problem!

Then there's the fat guy's moral character; it sucks! We won't even go into all the breaking and entering. That's pretty well established.

What frosts me is that he tolerates bullying, even participates in it, and only lets up when it's to his personal advantage. Don't believe me? Go watch the Rudolph TV special. Just because Rudolph is a little different—in appearance only, mind you, he was a very nice reindeer except for the nose—the other reindeer shunned him. Santa not only allowed this mean and miserable behavior, he participated in it, banning Rudolph from sleigh training, his birthright, with the other reindeer. That is, of course, until the weather was bad and none of the other reindeer could lead the sleigh. Then Rudolph was the reindeer of choice! But there was nary an apology for the at least months, probably years, of mistreatment. Oh no, Rudolph was expected to just ignore all that and take his place at the head of the team! Fortunately for Santa, Rudolph was a better man that he.

Saint Nicholas indeed! One hell of a saint he'd make!

That's why old Ebenezer was right. Christmas is a humbug: something intended to delude or deceive!




  
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Dec 04, 2013 18:23 |  #2

I stay out of public places until Dec 26th, I can't handle the folks ringing those bells non-stop. Been taking quiet walks in the woods, doing good until yesterday when I was crossing a frozen marsh and broke thru the ice. Had a 2 mile walk back to the car in 17 F temps, with a 20-25 mph wind. As bad as this was, it's better than those bell ringers.




  
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Dec 04, 2013 18:29 |  #3

Some people just die in their sleep and won' have to worry about all this....




  
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Dec 04, 2013 18:57 |  #4

rick_reno wrote in post #16502082 (external link)
I stay out of public places until Dec 26th, I can't handle the folks ringing those bells non-stop. Been taking quiet walks in the woods, doing good until yesterday when I was crossing a frozen marsh and broke thru the ice. Had a 2 mile walk back to the car in 17 F temps, with a 20-25 mph wind. As bad as this was, it's better than those bell ringers.

Hopefully, all extremities are intact.




  
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Dec 04, 2013 18:58 |  #5

Elfstop wrote in post #16502091 (external link)
Some people just die in their sleep and won' have to worry about all this....

I dunno. You look like another one of those people who hang out with elves....




  
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Dec 04, 2013 19:38 |  #6

:lol:

20droger wrote in post #16502148 (external link)
I dunno. You look like another one of those people who hang out with elves....




  
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Dec 04, 2013 19:49 |  #7

To the OP: one of the most well written posts ever on this forum.

But to proves to me you are a wacko. And I like wackos. I'm one.

But I love Xmas. Gives me the opportunity to spend sick amounts of money. Just bought a 75" Samsung TV and an eight grand Rolex for my wife. (She asked for a Timex so I got her one to fool her. Lol. )




  
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Dec 04, 2013 21:25 |  #8

MDJAK wrote in post #16502262 (external link)
To the OP: one of the most well written posts ever on this forum.

Thank you. Writing is what I did for a living before I retired.

But to proves to me you are a wacko. And I like wackos. I'm one.

Of course I am! You're just now realizing that? Boy, are you slow!

But I love Xmas. Gives me the opportunity to spend sick amounts of money. Just bought a 75" Samsung TV and an eight grand Rolex for my wife. (She asked for a Timex so I got her one to fool her. Lol. )

The destroyers of true Christmas [a.k.a. merchants] love you!

And I forgot to **** about people who hate the word "Xmas" and put down those who use it. "Xmas" is older than Christmas merchandizing, originating in the 800s. People forget that the Greek letter chi, "X", is a symbol for the word "Christ"!




  
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Dec 04, 2013 21:38 |  #9

Roger you did much better than the merchandisers!

They started advertising back in October!

You at least waited to December :-)


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Dec 04, 2013 23:16 |  #10

JAZZ D.P.G. wrote in post #16502547 (external link)
Roger you did much better than the merchandisers!

They started advertising back in October!

You at least waited to December :-)

Ah but I celebrate Christmas. The merchandisers celebrate Hallowthanksmasyear, a selling period encompassing Hallowe'en, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Day all blended into one.

Happy Hallowthanksmasyear!




  
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Dec 04, 2013 23:38 |  #11

Very well said Roger (no surprise, really).

However...

20droger wrote in post #16501935 (external link)
Christmas is a humbug: something intended to delude or deceive!

Can also be said about that which originally inspired Christmas.

But we won't discuss that further since it runs afoul of the the rules set down by our gentle mods.




  
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Dec 05, 2013 00:25 |  #12

mbellot wrote in post #16502806 (external link)
Can also be said about that which originally inspired Christmas.

But we won't discuss that further since it runs afoul of the the rules set down by our gentle mods.

That looks like a way of securing the last word in advance of any discussion. Neat trick! But not fair.

You do know, don't you, that Christmas comes about half from European pagans' midwinter festivals? It's hard to make a case that they were inended to delude or deceive.


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Dec 05, 2013 08:18 as a reply to  @ OhLook's post |  #13

Actually, the celebration of Christmas on December 25th began in ancient Rome.

During the Saturnalia, the laws were suspended for all but the most severe crimes. Minor things, like the worship of non-Roman gods, were ignored.

The Christians, having a bit of an image problem at the time, could have a festival during the Saturnalia without fear of arrest and torture. Also, the early Christians knew well that Jesus was born in spring, but they already had a much more important festival, Easter, at that time of the year. Combined, these facts made late December a perfect time to celebrate Christmas.

Also bear in mind that, to the early Christians, Christmas was a minor feast. This is evidenced by the fact that it is a fixed feast, i.e., occurring on the same calendric date every year. All the important feasts were (and still are) movable, i.e., having a variable calendric date but a fixed number of days before or after Easter.




  
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Dec 05, 2013 08:31 |  #14

OhLook wrote in post #16502877 (external link)
That looks like a way of securing the last word in advance of any discussion. Neat trick! But not fair.

Fair? On the interweb? :lol:

OhLook wrote in post #16502877 (external link)
You do know, don't you, that Christmas comes about half from European pagans' midwinter festivals? It's hard to make a case that they were intended to delude or deceive.

Not really... Different deity (or deities in some cases), same general intent.




  
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Dec 05, 2013 09:03 as a reply to  @ mbellot's post |  #15

Roger, tell us how you really feel! And what about Thanksgiving. What a poor overlooked holiday that is. Macy has Santa as the highlight of the parade, all the Christmas tree lots opened around here that day, the merchandisers are open as early as 6:00 am... I think it should be observed at harvest time with THREE days of feasting like the Pilgrims did.

Merry Christmas to all to whom it applies and to whom it does not offend.


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