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Dec 05, 2013 07:24 |  #1

Hi, just had a bad experience. Walking in very windy weather, head down with my 5Diii & 70-200 2.8 II on a Black Rapid strap. Strap attached to the foot of the 70-200 when I heard a noise. Looked around and saw the body of the 5D on the ground.

I didn't expect this to happen with equipment designed to handle pro level use.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

Does this mean that from now on I need to take a belt and braces approach?

The camera has suffered some scuff marks and a cracked screen protector but seems to be working (needs further testing to be sure).

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Dec 05, 2013 07:26 |  #2

It's possible that you didn't have the lens (or camera) completely mounted and locked. I shoot primes, so I tend to change lenses a lot, and a couple times when I've gotten in a hurry I didn't full lock the lens in.


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Dec 05, 2013 07:30 |  #3

Ouch. Get this. Problem solved.

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Dec 05, 2013 07:45 |  #4

You're not going to like hearing this. Yes, sometimes it is possible to not get the lens completely locked in the mount. But I have recently had a couple of close calls, including one where my 5D3 did hit the floor of the car--short distance, rubber mat.

The culprit?
The strap attached to the tripod foot. Picking up, putting down or shifting the equipment around, it is possible for the strap to get next to the lens mount release button. When you put pressure on the strap and it presses against the button your lens is unlocked--then the camera will be ready to fall without you realizing it. I now have e mental note to check the lens every time I pick it up if I have the tripod foot strap on.


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Dec 05, 2013 08:29 |  #5

the 2 most likely scenarios for this to happen...

1) locking mechanism on lensmount is defective
2) User error, didn't properly lock body to lens
3) Your movements allowed for lens release button to be pressed and lens twisted

No one likes to read this, but #2 is most likely
#3 is very least likely
and #1 somewhere in between...


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Dec 05, 2013 08:47 |  #6

SMP_Homer wrote in post #16503341 (external link)
the 2 most likely scenarios for this to happen...

1) locking mechanism on lensmount is defective
2) User error, didn't properly lock body to lens
3) Your movements allowed for lens release button to be pressed and lens twisted

No one likes to read this, but #2 is most likely
#3 is very least likely
and #1 somewhere in between...

Lens foot straps can most definitely get pressed against the release button. I duplicated the problem by testing after it happened twice unintentionally. The strap in question was attached to the strap pin under a Sigma 50-500 tripod foot, but the same circumstances are possible with an R-strap attached to the 70-200mm foot.


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Dec 05, 2013 08:57 as a reply to  @ advaitin's post |  #7

I sometimes wonder about that possibility... I find it way too easy to push in the unlock button. If you look at the little locking pin it is about 1 mm holding everything and I saw a scam on youtube once where someone bumps into you and before you know it, you only have a body hanging around your neck... would be helpful to have a safety lock on the release button.




  
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Dec 05, 2013 08:58 |  #8

Good points all.

SMP, I agree with you assessment - although I would suspect no 2 or no 3. It is possible that getting out of the car in very strong winds I pressed the lens release button somehow.

Bacchanal, I haven't changed lenses in a couple of days as I use this lens about 90% of the time but I agree, a possibility none the less.

Lehmanncpa, I have to admit to feeling that some forum contributors worry too much with the lengths they go to to double protect their gear - not any more. I have checked the link you shared and I can get one on Amazon UK for about £25.00 ($40.00). Small investment for such precious cargo.

Thank you all


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Dec 05, 2013 09:02 |  #9

As you can see, an unfortunate combination of fastek buckle in the very worst possible place, but we do not know how the OP's R-strap is set up.


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Dec 05, 2013 09:18 |  #10

Wow, I never heard of this happening before. OP, glad your MK3 is still functional even if it has new battle scars.

Crazy stuff happens I guess.


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Dec 05, 2013 09:35 |  #11

Lastblackdog wrote in post #16503421 (external link)
Lehmanncpa, I have to admit to feeling that some forum contributors worry too much with the lengths they go to to double protect their gear - not any more. I have checked the link you shared and I can get one on Amazon UK for about £25.00 ($40.00). Small investment for such precious cargo.

There are less expensive and DIY solutions as well. I've seen folks use 550 paracord and some buckles from a hardware store. The point is to always keep the camera tethered to the strap somehow. I just don't trust those single-point harnesses.

Sorry this had to happen to you, but hopefully you've helped convince others of the importance of keeping your equipment secure. Cheers.


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Dec 05, 2013 09:35 |  #12

I have once or twice accidentally activated the lens release button, while carrying the gear. But I have been lucky enough to notice it without any bad outcome.

It really doesn't hurt to always have multiple ways to secure expensive equipment.


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Dec 05, 2013 09:45 |  #13

advaitin wrote in post #16503430 (external link)
As you can see, an unfortunate combination of fastek buckle in the very worst possible place, but we do not know how the OP's R-strap is set up.

That's scary!:shock:

I never even thought of something like this happening. Thanks for the heads up.


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Dec 05, 2013 10:17 |  #14

Ouch!

I have heard of this happening on rare occasion, just exactly as advaitin described... The strap or a buckle on the strap presses the lens release, at the same time torque from the single point mount on the bottom of the lens causes it to rotate enough to release the camera.

Second most likely would be user error, I suspect... Because I've seen that a few times, too... though usually it's obvious when you go to use the camera and can't set the lens aperture.

The least likely is a fault or failure of the latch mechanism itself, IMO... Just based upon many years using Canon cameras with much larger and heavier lenses than a 70-200 and never having any problem with the lens latching mechanism or the strength of the mount.

If carrying it with a single point strap like this, it might be safere to rotate the tripod mount to the top of the lens. Or to attach the strap at the camera's tripod mounting socket, instead.


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Dec 05, 2013 11:10 |  #15

OMG IS SHE/HE OKAY??? That is what is important now. Seems to be a common problem when we are in a rush that they made a extra part. I have the Secure-Its from op-tech. Works great! Once it molds to the strap comes off easy when you want to remove it.

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