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Dec 08, 2013 08:56 |  #1

First light setup for a nub.

There is always a 5-20mph breeze where I live so I was seriously considering going with a soft box setup instead of umbrellas for off camera light.

Since it will be my first time with flash I want to do a budget setup just for a test and found this http://www.amazon.com …s=speedlight+so​ft+box+kit (external link)

I know I would probably still have to use sandbags but will it be easier to use then umbrellas in wind?
Calling on your experience guys, I don't have a studio, I am not a pro , but I do like taking well lit photos and who knows maybe it can grow into something.


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Dec 08, 2013 11:28 |  #2

When it's windy, I use a beauty dish, there are several budget priced BD's on ebay and amazon.


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Dec 08, 2013 11:32 |  #3

I do not like the look of that light stand. The wider the footprint, the more stable it will be, and that looks like a pretty typical generic aluminum light stand. No bueno outdoors. Regardless of the stand, yes, you will have to sandbag.

Those softboxes are less fly-away prone than an umbrella, but because of the flat sides and size, it will still get "pushed". I have used my 20" versions of those kinds of softboxes, and they'll still feel the wind but they aren't sails. An umbrella will try to fly away!


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Dec 08, 2013 11:41 |  #4

Fotodiox 28" BD.


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Dec 08, 2013 11:44 |  #5

As others have already stated, a beauty dish should be the first option when shooting in unpredictable windy conditions.


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Dec 08, 2013 11:55 |  #6

Ralph, do you the link again to the one that you have?

28" is getting a little big for windy conditions.


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Dec 08, 2013 12:13 |  #7

This is what I got:
http://fotodioxpro.com …s-strobe-flash-light.html (external link)

I don't think you'd see a substantial difference in windage between a 22" and a 28". I like the output of the 28 BD, especially if you want some modeling. I'm sure there will be folks telling me I'm full of sh*t shortly:lol:

Oh, and a substantial stand with a sandbag or a 15lb battery pack for weight is a for sure.

BTW, does your phone still work at 40 below?


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Dec 08, 2013 14:35 |  #8

BrickR wrote in post #16510942 (external link)
I do not like the look of that light stand. The wider the footprint, the more stable it will be, ...

Creative Light 6' Travel Stands (external link) are light, & take sand bags well.

"C stands", Century stands are very stable, too. (external link)


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Dec 08, 2013 16:43 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #9

Thanks for the responses very much and the advice.
The Fotodiox 28" BD is out of my price range for an experiment though.

I may just have make my own or make a softbox out of a cooler I have and see how it works.


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Dec 08, 2013 17:07 |  #10

Dear HOTLED/Ken,

Light modifiers depend so much on individual preference, style & desired image (but given your OP reference appeared to be a speedlight, rather than strobe) you may want to consider this on or ideally off camera.
ROGUE Flashbender – Large:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …r_Large_Positio​nable.html (external link) $37.99 USD
IN SUMMARY - simple, versatile, compact, portable and effective!

I love this thing!!! (& share your goal of taking well lit photos)

Outside-
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=hjL7mO25WLo (external link) (4:57 minute video)
Also great for inside-
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=Qa9709Ex8nY (external link) (9:01 minute video)
You tube is your friend to see other videos of this versatile product in action.

Just something to think about and a simple option for you...
Hope this helps, good luck & have fun!


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Dec 08, 2013 17:15 |  #11
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Take a look at this (external link). Not saying you should buy that accessory (which only works with their softboxes anyway), but maybe you can improvise something like it?


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Dec 08, 2013 19:08 |  #12

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Dear HOTLED/Ken,

Light modifiers depend so much on individual preference, style & desired image (but given your OP reference appeared to be a speedlight, rather than strobe) you may want to consider this on or ideally off camera.
ROGUE Flashbender – Large:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …r_Large_Positio​nable.html (external link) $37.99 USD
IN SUMMARY - simple, versatile, compact, portable and effective!

I love this thing!!! (& share your goal of taking well lit photos)

Outside-
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=hjL7mO25WLo (external link) (4:57 minute video)
Also great for inside-
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=Qa9709Ex8nY (external link) (9:01 minute video)
You tube is your friend to see other videos of this versatile product in action.

Just something to think about and a simple option for you...
Hope this helps, good luck & have fun!


Mary

Looks perfect for me to learn on- Thank you very much for the links. Now to find a stand with shoe mount on the cheap lol...I'm a cheap sob.


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Dec 08, 2013 22:06 |  #13

Hi HOTLED/Ken,
You indicated in OP: “There is always a 5-20 mph breeze where I live”.
Hmmm…
I have read that Texans do it BIG - perhaps that includes lawsuits.
Wind + cheap = potential trouble => public liability!! Suggest don’t potentially compromise on safety.
(there are several reasons many cities & municipalities do not allow tripods, nor light stands on public walkways, etc).

“Cheap” may end up costing you more in the long term via damaged/broken stands, unsatisfactory/comprom​ised performance, product iterations through experience, or worse a writ; you may want to consider a doing it right the first time approach by - think twice & act once. Remember with risk management: luck favors those that are prepared.
Just one view… (with concern for you & your subjects)

Happy shooting.

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