Why not much talk about the 24-70 IS F4 ?? Experience ?

Thanks for the link Nick.
I'll give it a try tomorrow.

Nick_Reading.UK wrote in post #16559038
Try this

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/11872​47

The most valuable post in this thread thus far.. Thanks Nick

i'm actually really surprised more people haven't bought this lens since this thread was started...in the US it's available at adorama for $899 after a $300 mail in rebate...if it's still not selling at that price, i just don't know what it will sell at...

No doubt Canon made an engineering mistake in production of F4 but then there might be a valid point in Marketing or at least prestige line of market.
Consumer who know, know it all and among those who don't know, there are buyers of this lens.

samsen wrote in post #16559597
No doubt Canon made an engineering mistake in production of F4 but then there might be a valid point in Marketing or at least prestige line of market.

I think you have the departments mixed up. If the lens doesn't sell, that is a marketing mistake. This means the company set out to make a product that has no demand.

It's hard to see how a solid performing lens like the 24-70/4L IS is an engineering mistake. I suspect this lens is exactly what marketing asked engineering to make.

Now, if it was plagued by poor optical performance or was unreliable in use, those would be engineering mistakes.

JeffreyG wrote in post #16559724
It's hard to see how a solid performing lens like the 24-70/4L IS is an engineering mistake. I suspect this lens is exactly what marketing asked engineering to make.

Now, if it was plagued by poor optical performance or was unreliable in use, those would be engineering mistakes.

It seems to me that it was made as a kit lens for the 6D, a small high performance lens to match the 6D's compact size and image quality abilities. The 6D is as small as most crop bodies, but there was no small full frame lens to match it. Well the 24-70mm f4 is not much bigger than a 15-85mm!
Canon's only mistake was the price point relative to the 24-105mm.

DreDaze wrote in post #16559565
i'm actually really surprised more people haven't bought this lens since this thread was started...in the US it's available at adorama for $899 after a $300 mail in rebate...if it's still not selling at that price, i just don't know what it will sell at...

I bought a 24-70 f4 L IS from Adorama but haven't tried it out yet. With all the other lenses I have, I am debating if I should get rid off the 24-70II. I shoot indoor some times but at narrower than f2.8 to get decent DOF. What do folks shoot at f2.8 in the 24-70 range outdoor? Maybe for certain portrait?

kdrk888 wrote in post #16560351
What do folks shoot at f2.8 in the 24-70 range outdoor? Maybe for certain portrait?

I'd keep it. Stop it down to f8 and the 24-70mm II is still out performing the f4 and any other zoom and most primes for that matter.