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I am looking for a flash camera bracket for quick 90degree change for portrait

 
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Dec 17, 2013 08:01 |  #16

yea THIS is cool. one point to make, and question for you ewheeler20: The bracket itself can mount on the lens collar itself, without attaching to the camera body, saving some complexity and a little weight. any particular reason you chose to use the camera body mount in this case? The setup you have here is of course flexible to be used in either configuration; I just thought I would point out that if you use the lens collar mount you avoid using the nodal slide plate, and the circular bracket attaches directly to the lens plate -- if you have an RRS or similar (long enough) lens plate attached to the lens foot.

Is this the "87" bracket? it looks well centered over the lens even when mounted on the side of your L bracket?


5D mark iii, EF-24-105mm f/4, EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM, Speedlite 580 EX II plus 3x Yongnuo 568EX, photoflex 60" white umbrella, Westcott Apollo Orb with grid

400mm on a 1.6x body is still 400mm. sensors do not change lens physics...

  
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Dec 17, 2013 08:05 |  #17

Have been using the Custom Brackets below. Simple, sturdy. Does the job.
Works just fine with gripped bodies as others may interfere with grip controls.
http://www.custombrack​ets.com …rf-pro-series/rf-pro.html (external link)


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Dec 17, 2013 08:08 |  #18

Nick5 I couldn't tell from the product photos -- does this one allow you to you leave an L plate attached full time, for example, or does it require that you attach it directly to the camera body?


5D mark iii, EF-24-105mm f/4, EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM, Speedlite 580 EX II plus 3x Yongnuo 568EX, photoflex 60" white umbrella, Westcott Apollo Orb with grid

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Dec 17, 2013 19:04 |  #19

dlleno wrote in post #16533935 (external link)
yea THIS is cool. one point to make, and question for you ewheeler20: The bracket itself can mount on the lens collar itself, without attaching to the camera body, saving some complexity and a little weight. any particular reason you chose to use the camera body mount in this case? The setup you have here is of course flexible to be used in either configuration; I just thought I would point out that if you use the lens collar mount you avoid using the nodal slide plate, and the circular bracket attaches directly to the lens plate -- if you have an RRS or similar (long enough) lens plate attached to the lens foot.

Is this the "87" bracket? it looks well centered over the lens even when mounted on the side of your L bracket?

My L bracket stays on my camera 99% of the time for various reasons, so I just utilize that vs the lens collar because a lot of times I do not use a lens that has a lens collar. Also, It is easy to change back and forth from my 70-200 to my 24-70 without removing/reconfiguring the flash bracket at all. Very convenient.

This is my current RRS lineup:
Flash Bracket (external link) $355
L Plate (external link) $183
Lens Foot (external link) $55
Ballhead (external link) $390

$983 total but I absolutely love RRS and could not image having my camera without it. Everything works flawlessly and seamlessly among all components. It is the most durable camera-related equipment I own. Having all that equipment means I never even have to think twice about setup/configuration and I certainly never have to worry about if it is all sturdy enough!


Canon 7D | 70-200mm f2.8is II L | 24-70mm f2.8 L | 50mm f1.8 | 28mm f1.8 | Canon 1.4x TC II | 580EX II

  
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Dec 17, 2013 21:03 |  #20

I'm a Custom Brackets user

IMAGE: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5483/11428678656_4601fd29be_b.jpg

Looked on Ebay I see you can pick them up for around 75.00 a lot cheaper then I paid

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Dec 18, 2013 10:27 |  #21

is that a releasing knob for you to switch over to portrait ?

I won't call it FAST if you need to release and tightened the knob to do that !


EOS 70D x 2 units + EOS 7D mark II x3 units
Newton FR3, Newton modified bracket, EF 17-40mm x4,EF 24-70mm f/2.8 x2, EF 70-200mm f/2.8 x2
Quantum Trio x2, T5D-R x1 + FW7Q x1, CoPilot x2, Godox AD-180 x5
Propac PB960 head x12, PB960 battery x10
sorry, no stupid speedlite from Canon !

  
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Dec 18, 2013 10:29 |  #22

Wilt wrote in post #16523508 (external link)
A professional grade bracket will cost about $250-300, but these all accomplish these 3 functions...

  1. Keep flash directly above the axis of the lens, regardless of Landscape vs. Portrait orientation
  2. Allow the camera to be rotated CCW to Portrait position, so that battery grips are in the right hand and the supplemental controls of the battery grip continue to be usable
  3. Keeps the flash pointed up to the ceiling without any additional manual adjustment of flash head orientation


Pro grade products include Newton flash bracket, the higher priced Custom Brackets (but not their cheaper ones!), RRS.

You will find that the $100 products do not do all three... And one of the three (or maybe more) is missing! So if $100 is all you want to spend, you need to decide which of the three functions would be acceptable when missing from the chosen product.

You will also find that many brackets CANNOT accept a camera with battery grip.

The Newton Camera Bracket adapts to both cameras with bracket and cameras without bracket....I can use mine with both my medium format camera with and without motor winder, and with my Canon dSLR both with or without battery grip.

good point, Wilt


EOS 70D x 2 units + EOS 7D mark II x3 units
Newton FR3, Newton modified bracket, EF 17-40mm x4,EF 24-70mm f/2.8 x2, EF 70-200mm f/2.8 x2
Quantum Trio x2, T5D-R x1 + FW7Q x1, CoPilot x2, Godox AD-180 x5
Propac PB960 head x12, PB960 battery x10
sorry, no stupid speedlite from Canon !

  
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Dec 18, 2013 16:45 |  #23

tongki wrote in post #16536882 (external link)
is that a releasing knob for you to switch over to portrait ?

I won't call it FAST if you need to release and tightened the knob to do that !

I uploaded a quick self-taken video to my flickr account showing how the RRS bracket works. I don't know how to embed a video to the forum, so here is the link to the video. (external link)The knob can be used to tighten the flash to the round piece only if you dont want to rotate it. Otherwise the little divots in the round piece keep it at a set degree and it takes a very tiny amount of pressure to move it to the next divot. I think halfway through the video you can see the flash actually "falls" a bit when it bypassed the 45 degree divot because the tightening knob needed to be turned just a bit more so it wouldnt do that, but would still be "pliable" enough to move easily without dealing with the knob every time you want to rotate.

So, yeah, I'd call it FAST. lol.


Canon 7D | 70-200mm f2.8is II L | 24-70mm f2.8 L | 50mm f1.8 | 28mm f1.8 | Canon 1.4x TC II | 580EX II

  
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Dec 18, 2013 16:54 |  #24

ewheeler20 wrote in post #16537891 (external link)
I uploaded a quick self-taken video to my flickr account showing how the RRS bracket works. I don't know how to embed a video to the forum, so here is the link to the video. (external link)The knob can be used to tighten the flash to the round piece only if you dont want to rotate it. Otherwise the little divots in the round piece keep it at a set degree and it takes a very tiny amount of pressure to move it to the next divot. I think halfway through the video you can see the flash actually "falls" a bit when it bypassed the 45 degree divot because the tightening knob needed to be turned just a bit more so it wouldnt do that, but would still be "pliable" enough to move easily without dealing with the knob every time you want to rotate.

So, yeah, I'd call it FAST. lol.

FAST is good ewheeler20 thank-you thats the information I'm looking for. unfortuantely the video is private and I can't see it! but waiting with breathless anticipation to see the motion.

stamp out side shadows!


5D mark iii, EF-24-105mm f/4, EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM, Speedlite 580 EX II plus 3x Yongnuo 568EX, photoflex 60" white umbrella, Westcott Apollo Orb with grid

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Dec 18, 2013 17:06 |  #25

oops! try again. (external link) now it's public


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Dec 18, 2013 17:47 |  #26

Very nice. You're using the 87 on a 7d? 5d3 with grip should work out very much the same. Btw what mp rail are you using. Is that mp-cl or mp-cl ii ?


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Dec 18, 2013 18:49 |  #27

whats an mp rail? :oops:


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Dec 18, 2013 20:39 |  #28

Sorry. Multi purpose rail with clamp. I.e. mpr-cl ii or mpr-cl


5D mark iii, EF-24-105mm f/4, EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM, Speedlite 580 EX II plus 3x Yongnuo 568EX, photoflex 60" white umbrella, Westcott Apollo Orb with grid

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Dec 18, 2013 21:16 |  #29

mpr-cl. Its what came with the package. (external link)


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Dec 18, 2013 21:24 |  #30

+1 Love the ProMedia Gear Boomerang bracket. It is very versatlie and very light weight.


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