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Second hand lenses.. The bloody cheek of it !!!

 
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Dec 17, 2013 06:53 |  #46

Sprout Crumble wrote in post #16533772 (external link)
Don't understand this attitude at all. Just because you have the freedom to walk away from a bad deal, it shouldn't be discussed or criticised?

Why should a business owner be critizised for using his right to decide prices? How about we start critizise people for deciding how much money they want to charge for a print or per hour, debating that they should decrease their prices?


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Dec 17, 2013 07:41 |  #47

pwm2 wrote in post #16533852 (external link)
Why should a business owner be critizised for using his right to decide prices? How about we start critizise people for deciding how much money they want to charge for a print or per hour, debating that they should decrease their prices?

That's ridiculous. All consumers have the right to discuss the value of items they're interested in buying with like-minded people, and that's exactly what's happening here. Nobody is critcising the owner for the right to decide prices, just what the prices they've decided on are. Your comment is extremely disingenuous.


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Dec 17, 2013 07:57 |  #48

I contract with the government and a large auction company for online auction sales.
When it comes to electronics, the rule of thumb is 20-50% of wholesale value. Sometimes less/sometimes more, but it depends on the location and amount of items.

With retail stores, you have to take into account the shops overhead and the depreciation on the lens. For them it might not necessarily be about them being cheap, but just playing it safe from a business perspective.

Hell, even for my own sales, it sometimes takes me a year to clear out merchandise that I purchased 2nd hand.


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Dec 17, 2013 08:07 |  #49

Sprout Crumble wrote in post #16533900 (external link)
That's ridiculous. All consumers have the right to discuss the value of items they're interested in buying with like-minded people, and that's exactly what's happening here. Nobody is critcising the owner for the right to decide prices, just what the prices they've decided on are. Your comment is extremely disingenuous.

@Sprout Crumble, calling PWM2's argument extremely disingenuous does not make your argument right, ironic at best. This thread is actually completely useless and serves no purpose other then a scream for attention from OP.
The intention is clear as already stated by OP and others: "not at my expense!" Well, "who gives a rat's arse"?! You can discuss this until you are blue in the face but we have no right judging the business owner how he conducts his business as long as he does not violate any laws. So, if you don't like the shops proposal, then just leave it as is and go sell your stuff on Ebay or Gumtree(UK). At the very best you can only discuss the trade-in percentage at different shops so you can compare and take advantage of info from other forum members. Anything else in this thread is bordering on the judgemental and serves no purpose.




  
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Dec 17, 2013 08:18 |  #50

I do agree the tone of the OP's post was way off, but I don't think a discussion of the worth of where best to get rid of unwanted lenses is without merit.

Whatever the merits, I'm out. This threads only going one way and it's not something I'm overly bothered about either.


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Dec 17, 2013 08:38 |  #51

Do the folks who are complaining about the small retailer's markup also complain about the manufacturer's markup?


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Dec 17, 2013 14:16 |  #52

KirkS518 wrote in post #16534001 (external link)
Do the folks who are complaining about the small retailer's markup also complain about the manufacturer's markup?

Don't people know? Corporations exist to run charities that give people jobs and to give away products for a loss.




  
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Dec 17, 2013 14:36 as a reply to  @ vengence's post |  #53

Someone might have mentioned this (I didn't read all of the posts) but there is no law that says that you need to buy the used lens for the price marked. Offer him 300 for it and negotiate something that will work better for both of you. If he won't budge on the price then laugh a bit as you walk out of the store.


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Dec 17, 2013 17:10 |  #54

Copidosoma wrote in post #16534824 (external link)
If he won't budge on the price then laugh a bit as you walk out of the store.

I did laugh abit and not really in his face as such, so did over exaggerate in my first post..
But I did get really wound up about the price he quoted.. Still cheeky ..!!
I am always looking for ways to save money and not get ripped off.. I change car insurance every year because they think they can overprice as consumers are too lazy to jump ship.
After searching I recently changed house insurance as I got a better deal with all camera gear insured for half the price of what I was paying before (moved into a new build house a year ago and took the insurance that the mortgage guy gave. (Schoolboy error) now £140 per year.
My internet provider decided to send me a letter to up my bill £2 per month so I compared prices on the net phoned my current supplier (Virgin media) and told them I "will" move to sky and please cancel my internet, then all of a sudden they decided not to up my bill by £2 but decrease my current monthly bill by £4 pounds ( a difference of £6)
When my misses and I go shopping we buy long life Items on deal in bulk and store to save money, we also cook big and freeze and also eat the same stuff the next day (I am a good cook mind:-) )
We also go the different cheap supermarkets for different stuff and all good quality.
We give our own readings from our electric, gas and water to the suppliers ourselves because we don't like getting our bills guessed with the hope we might get back-payments.
And and and..
We have zero debt (apart from mortgage) and save £2-3k a month.. I Don't care if you want to Call me a tight arse but that's how we role..
Anyway if lenses are supposed to keep their value as is so often stated here on POTN why would I give my lens away for half price.. I Would rather see it go to a school for free.. Over and out..


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Dec 17, 2013 18:00 |  #55

Sprout Crumble wrote in post #16531229 (external link)
As someone else here stated, it's easy to see why the camera store is disappearing from the UK high street when that lens for example, can be bought new at multiple reputable UK dealers for just £40 more.

I'm glad someone mentioned this, because I too thought the price of the displayed lens was over the top. If I were going to buy this lens I certainly wouldn't buy a secondhand one for £600 when, for just a few quid more, I could get a brand new one. But I guess the shop owner must be confident of selling it at that price so I suppose the laugh is on me. I don't have an issue with the guy's mark-up.


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