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Dec 19, 2013 05:04 |  #1
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Does anyone who does this type of photography use even UV filters or any other filters for night time/long exposure photography?




  
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Dec 19, 2013 09:50 |  #2

I don't. Your sensor probably already has UV filtration. Extra filters like the UV just provide more surfaces for the light to reflect off & bounce around inside the lens.

OTOH, a hood helps to retain the contrast that's built into the lens (reduces flare) which is especially important on fast lenses, & provides some protection, too.


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Dec 19, 2013 09:52 |  #3

UV filters are a scam by brick and mortar photography stores... IMHO.


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Dec 19, 2013 10:15 as a reply to  @ facedodge's post |  #4

I never use UV filters anyway, I don't see any point to them unless shooting in a sandstorm or heavy ocean spray, but if I did then they would come off for night time photography if there are any lights in the scene (and for most night time photography there are). UV, or "protection" filters, may or may not affect IQ in regular use, but if a point light source is in the scene they can all cause reflections of that light, giving ghost images of it elsewhere in the image. The best filters should minimise this, but won't be totally immune to the problem.

As stated above, DSLRs have an inbuilt UV filter, which makes the UV filter unnecessary, they were very useful for film photography though. When DSLRs came along, UV filter sales dropped off dramatically until sellers decided to say they were needed to protect the lens. They provide extremely minimal protection and only in certain circumstances, and can be harmful as they break easily and the shards of glass can then scratch the lens they are supposed to be protecting.

Its a personal decision though, if somebody wants to use them because they feel more protected then great, but get a really good one as cheap ones can (and often do) degrade image quality very noticeably. Take them off when shooting towards light sources though, to minimise reflections.




  
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Dec 19, 2013 10:15 |  #5

Those who purchase a UV filter with their DSLR probably also get the rustproofing at the car dealership...


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Dec 19, 2013 10:16 as a reply to  @ facedodge's post |  #6

ND filters can sometimes be useful to prevent light from reaching the sensor if you want to do an ultra long exposure. When I did this I would normally use ND filters more around blue hour than after


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Dec 19, 2013 13:31 |  #7

For night, I might want to use a CLP and there can be some scenes that a GND would be helpful in stead of stacking exposures. NDs are often needed to get a long exposure.




  
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Dec 19, 2013 13:37 |  #8

No use, whatsoever, for UV filters; I've never used a GND for a night shot, rarely used an ND after about 7pm, and only used a CPL for night/evening shots once or twice.


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Dec 19, 2013 18:46 |  #9

facedodge wrote in post #16539607 (external link)
UV filters are a scam by brick and mortar photography stores... IMHO.

you can buy 'em online too!


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Dec 19, 2013 22:19 |  #10

Can you get rusrproofing on the UV filter?


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Dec 20, 2013 02:20 |  #11

Tom_D wrote in post #16541432 (external link)
Can you get rusrproofing on the UV filter?

Don't be stupid. They are glass. OTOH the ring might rust!!

However when you buy it new you can also get an all claims bonus insurance to cover accidents, like it falling into the toilet and things. There it might get a rusty ring.


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Dec 20, 2013 04:40 |  #12

Tom_D wrote in post #16541432 (external link)
Can you get rusrproofing on the UV filter?

Yup, send me your UV filter and I'll rust-proof it for £20.


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Dec 21, 2013 23:05 |  #13

Hang on gang, most of us who have been new to "serious" photography have had questions about filters, let's try to take them seriously!

So how about we try to answer the question or at least be somewhat specific:

A UV (Ultra Violet) filter, hmm, not so useful with digital unless you are trying to protect with something like a dust-storm or sand-storm, because at least our Canon bodies have "built-in" Ultra-Violet protections!

A GND (Graduated Neutral Density) filter will help "tone down" the areas of highlight with the areas of shadows (typically between a bright sunrise or sunset and the foreground) do get used a lot!

An ND (Neutral Density) Filter simply applies "darkness" to your exposure, meaning that you can get a slower shutter speed to do thing like photographing "slow waves" or a "slow waterfall"!

A CPS (Circular Polarizing filter) can serve a couple purposes. For example, it can enhance saturation in an image, but another "fun" thing it can do is lower your exposure by as much as two stops, acting as a "low power" ND filter!!!


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Dec 22, 2013 03:23 |  #14

facedodge wrote in post #16539607 (external link)
UV filters are a scam by brick and mortar photography stores... IMHO.

Corbeau wrote in post #16539655 (external link)
Those who purchase a UV filter with their DSLR probably also get the rustproofing at the car dealership...

I am in general an anti-UV filter person. But I do use them when photographing in a garage/workshop environment as I'd rather flying grinding/cutting sparks hit the filter than the front element..... I'd say to go as far as you guys are phrasing it is a bit off to the people who do decide to use them.


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Dec 22, 2013 04:45 |  #15

LeeRatters wrote in post #16546359 (external link)
I'd rather flying grinding/cutting sparks hit the filter than the front element

And do you notice the damage to the filters? How often do they need replacing?


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