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Dec 21, 2013 07:11 |  #16

Nissanfairladyz32 wrote in post #16544079 (external link)
6D for the win.

Thanks for that really helpful review. Really seems like you put a lot of thought into it. :rolleyes:




  
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Dec 21, 2013 07:36 |  #17

jsimon724 wrote in post #16544417 (external link)
Thanks for that really helpful review. Really seems like you put a lot of thought into it. :rolleyes:

Its common sense what the better camera is. What more needs to be said ?

Do you want a camera that takes pictures with the same image quality as a 5D III or do you want a crop sensor camera that has a swivel screen that shoots faster fps?

Id prefer the excellent low light iso capabilities and 5d3 imagine quality. plus coming from a full frame you wouldn't want to step back down to a crop senor camera when your used to shooting FF.

Like he said if hes only shooting family and his daughter you dont need the faster FPS, id take Image quality over FPS any day. Even my 5D Classic seemed fast at only 3.5 or so FPS. The 6d for the $1300 is a bargain, i ordered one a few days ago coming from a 5d classic, 70d wasn't ever on my mind or an option.

Look at snapsort.com they compare the two cameras, (6d got a 91, 70d got a 74)

Seems if you want a built in flash, touch screen, swivel, more FPS, more cross type focus points, and cheaper camera go with the 70D

If you want lower noise at higher ISO, 20% better image quality , more dynamic range, better color depth, GPS, Thinner, Higher Resolution, Longer Battery life, larger view finder, go with the 6D

Clearly you can see the advantages and disadvantages of both, the 70D seems to have all the features of the rebels.

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Dec 21, 2013 08:12 |  #18

I wouldn't go looking at snap sort as the be all end all comparison:lol:

I would keep it simple, if you are shooting faster things that you need better outside points and longer lenses and faster fps, then 70d. If you are shooting anything else then probably 6d. Now that said, the lens investment is part of the equation and that alone kept me from ff soley, not camera costs, for a long time and is really legitimate.


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Dec 21, 2013 09:11 |  #19

Nissanfairladyz32 wrote in post #16544079 (external link)
6D for the win.

Just curious. How can you make this statement when your 6D hasn't been delivered yet? If you're making your argument based on what you read on the internet instead of actual experience with the body, I'm not sure your statement carries much weight.

Also, I love the 70D=rebel. Thanks for the laugh this morning...I needed it :lol:

Either way, a better or more expensive body doesn't make a better image. It's the photographer. I've seen amazing images from rebels on up.



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Dec 21, 2013 09:20 |  #20

jay125 wrote in post #16544580 (external link)
Just curious. How can you make this statement when your 6D hasn't been delivered yet? If you're making your argument based on what you read on the internet instead of actual experience with the body, I'm not sure your statement carries much weight.

Also, I love the 70D=rebel. Thanks for the laugh this morning...I needed it :lol:

Based on specs alone, you are comparing a corvette to a camaro.

Not to mention i've done tons of research, just look at pictures taken from both cameras and its really apparent the one that stands out.

If i didn't care about image quality and just wanted a fast fps crop body id spend $500 on a 60D. You get what you pay for.

Not saying the 70D is a rebel, just has alot of rebel like features, touch screen, swivel, pop up flash, ect ... with specs being so close to the T5I.


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Dec 21, 2013 09:33 |  #21
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Nissanfairladyz32 wrote in post #16544452 (external link)
Its common sense what the better camera is. What more needs to be said ?

Do you want a camera that takes pictures with the same image quality as a 5D III or do you want a crop sensor camera that has a swivel screen that shoots faster fps?

Id prefer the excellent low light iso capabilities and 5d3 imagine quality. plus coming from a full frame you wouldn't want to step back down to a crop senor camera when your used to shooting FF.

Like he said if hes only shooting family and his daughter you dont need the faster FPS, id take Image quality over FPS any day. Even my 5D Classic seemed fast at only 3.5 or so FPS. The 6d for the $1300 is a bargain, i ordered one a few days ago coming from a 5d classic, 70d wasn't ever on my mind or an option.

Look at snapsort.com they compare the two cameras, (6d got a 91, 70d got a 74)

Seems if you want a built in flash, touch screen, swivel, more FPS, more cross type focus points, and cheaper camera go with the 70D

If you want lower noise at higher ISO, 20% better image quality , more dynamic range, better color depth, GPS, Thinner, Higher Resolution, Longer Battery life, larger view finder, go with the 6D

Clearly you can see the advantages and disadvantages of both, the 70D seems to have all the features of the rebels.

http://snapsort.com …n-EOS-6D-vs-Canon-EOS-70D (external link)

You're in shark infested waters! Careful my friend, the 6D haters will try to eat you alive!


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Dec 21, 2013 09:37 |  #22

Nissanfairladyz32 wrote in post #16544600 (external link)
Based on specs alone, you are comparing a corvette to a camaro.

Not to mention i've done tones of research, just look at pictures taken from both cameras and its really apparent the one that stands out.

If i didin't care about image quality and just wanted a fast fps crop body id spend 500 on a 60D. You get what you pay for.

Do the images online truly represent the ability of the body, or of the person making them?
Both the 6D and the 70D, in the hands of a capable photographer will return amazing images which a person would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the bodies that captured them..

My point is simply hands-on experience with any body carries more weight than reviews online. Snapshot gave it a 91, DPreview gave the 6D an 83. Online reviews are great tools to lead a person to make a decision, but I believe hands-on is the true deciding factor.

I have seen some great images from the 6D, and I've seen equally great images from rebels on up.

I believe you're going to love your 6D and will create stunning images with it.



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Dec 21, 2013 10:13 |  #23

Jay brings up a great point. When I was looking into a 5dii, I was taken by that thread.....however, simply put in general it is better photographers and glass. Let's face it, you need to be good enough to justify an investment of ff and l glass, and most that do are generally better at their hobby.

I can look at my pics from even my 60d and first rebel and say, wow the 60d is better, but in reality I got better with time and I got better glass. I gave my xsi to my daughter, but I bet if I slapped my 135 on it and used it I would make significantly better pictures with it than I did years ago when I started, and that has nothing to do with the camera itself.

Also, I haven't used a 70d, but have a 60d, and that was the king "rebel xxd" camera. Sorry, but dual dials, top LCD, better AF and other features for fast adjustments in a shooting situation or in general really distance it from a "rebel", which are very capable anyway from a picture standpoint. You are buying more of that stuff with an xxd camera and it is worth it.

Still, ff does offer a better picture, and much better veiwfinder. I don't like when people say the pics are about the same from crop to ff. They can be, but also they can not be, and it is the can not bes that make ff worthwhile, but in reality you as a photograpgher need to be at a point to know how to get those shots from it, there is no magic button. I could post pics from my 6 and 60 and you wouldn't know which was which, and I can also post pics that you know came from the 6. It is up to me (you) to get those pics out of the camera. Lenses still trump the body, they always will I think. A good lens will always do more for your pics than a body.


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Dec 21, 2013 10:30 |  #24

Nick3434 wrote in post #16544739 (external link)
Jay brings up a great point. When I was looking into a 5dii, I was taken by that thread.....however, simply put in general it is better photographers and glass. Let's face it, you need to be good enough to justify an investment of ff and l glass, and most that do are generally better at their hobby.

I can look at my pics from even my 60d and first rebel and say, wow the 60d is better, but in reality I got better with time and I got better glass. I gave my xsi to my daughter, but I bet if I slapped my 135 on it and used it I would make significantly better pictures with it than I did years ago when I started, and that has nothing to do with the camera itself.

Also, I haven't used a 70d, but have a 60d, and that was the king "rebel xxd" camera. Sorry, but dual dials, top LCD, better AF and other features for fast adjustments in a shooting situation or in general really distance it from a "rebel", which are very capable anyway from a picture standpoint. You are buying more of that stuff with an xxd camera and it is worth it.

Still, ff does offer a better picture, and much better veiwfinder. I don't like when people say the pics are about the same from crop to ff. They can be, but also they can not be, and it is the can not bes that make ff worthwhile, but in reality you as a photograpgher need to be at a point to know how to get those shots from it, there is no magic button. I could post pics from my 6 and 60 and you wouldn't know which was which, and I can also post pics that you know came from the 6. It is up to me (you) to get those pics out of the camera. Lenses still trump the body, they always will I think. A good lens will always do more for your pics than a body.

Well said!




  
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Dec 21, 2013 13:07 |  #25

Nissanfairladyz32 wrote in post #16544600 (external link)
Based on specs alone, you are comparing a corvette to a camaro.

Not to mention i've done tons of research, just look at pictures taken from both cameras and its really apparent the one that stands out.

If i didn't care about image quality and just wanted a fast fps crop body id spend $500 on a 60D. You get what you pay for.

Not saying the 70D is a rebel, just has alot of rebel like features, touch screen, swivel, pop up flash, ect ... with specs being so close to the T5I.

snapshot comparsion is very good "research" indeed :D
Its not only about FPS, but you need proper AF system to capture these precious moments.... 6D is actually considered as FF rebel by many people because of 9 point AF system;-)a
your research lacks some very important data (main pros/cons etc.. )but hey, its a fullframe... it doesn´t have any cons...


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Dec 21, 2013 14:07 |  #26

People are different and the needs are different. There is no one camera that fits all. Both 70D and 6D have their strength and weak spots. Do what you think comfortable and like.


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Dec 21, 2013 14:18 |  #27

Nissanfairladyz32 wrote in post #16544600 (external link)
Based on specs alone, you are comparing a corvette to a camaro.

Not to mention i've done tons of research, just look at pictures taken from both cameras and its really apparent the one that stands out.

If i didn't care about image quality and just wanted a fast fps crop body id spend $500 on a 60D. You get what you pay for.

Not saying the 70D is a rebel, just has alot of rebel like features, touch screen, swivel, pop up flash, ect ... with specs being so close to the T5I.

Based on specs alone I would say the 70d => 6d in all areas except sensor size which is not necessarily the most important feature of a camera to all shooters. Depends on how what you plan to do with it.


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Dec 21, 2013 15:14 as a reply to  @ stpix's post |  #28

I'm guess I'm sticking with the 70d need a good autofocus system I fear the 6d will not keep up with kids running and playing also have the video features off the 70d is awesome at capturing those precious moments with your kids.




  
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Dec 21, 2013 15:17 as a reply to  @ adorabledan76's post |  #29

One feature I love I found out on the 70d is you can set your single autofocus point for vertical and horizontal shots. Switching your autofocus points is so much easier on the 70d than the 60d.




  
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Dec 21, 2013 15:18 as a reply to  @ adorabledan76's post |  #30

Probably the 6d does not have that feature.




  
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