canon 70d or 6d

amfoto1 wrote in post #16542873
That's called "buyer's remorse".

Keep the 70D and go shoot lots of pics with it...

... Until you can specifically state exactly how a full frame camera will improve your photography enough to justify the additional cost. Lenses for full frame are more limited, too, and will tend to be larger, heavier and more expensive.

I'd wager most people who "gotta have" a full frame camera will never actually see any tangible benefit from them. Their photography will be no better or worse than if they'd stuck with a crop sensor camera. It's just the latest and greatest fad.... And a really good way to blow a lot of money.

So stop second guessing yourself and go shoot photos with your one week old camera.

the bolded part is really silly. He's only spending $400 more, and that's not a lot in comparison with all the gear he already has.

1. TS already has mostly EF lenses, he can sell off his last EF-s lens for a 17-40.
2. He'd see a change in IQ across every single one of his lenses.

based on his gear, I think it's safe to say that he's not a dedicated sports photographer, and the 6D would be a much better upgrade.

adorabledan76 wrote in post #16545291
I'm guess I'm sticking with the 70d need a good autofocus system I fear the 6d will not keep up with kids running and playing also have the video features off the 70d is awesome at capturing those precious moments with your kids.

6D captures fine with kids

big kid, 85L:

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adorabledan76 wrote in post #16545291
I'm guess I'm sticking with the 70d need a good autofocus system I fear the 6d will not keep up with kids running and playing also have the video features off the 70d is awesome at capturing those precious moments with your kids.

before with my 6D many photos are out of focus when i shoot the movement of running kids
now I'm very happy with my 70D
from the first shot everything in focus
I think you are right about this point

you can feel that from the shutter sound of the 70D

the 70D reminds me my old 7D
fast focus
but the 7D still a pro body it's like a rock
I hope they will put all the new things in the new 7D II

Charlie wrote in post #16545335
the bolded part is really silly. He's only spending $400 more, and that's not a lot in comparison with all the gear he already has.

1. TS already has mostly EF lenses, he can sell off his last EF-s lens for a 17-40.
2. He'd see a change in IQ across every single one of his lenses.

based on his gear, I think it's safe to say that he's not a dedicated sports photographer, and the 6D would be a much better upgrade.

Could not have said it better. Some people just dont understand till they own a full frame and actually see the difference.

Its really hard to seek an advice anywhere, most of people are biased by what they got

dont let others to change your mind, both cameras are great and capable in the end. So pick the one, which suits you most.

Nissanfairladyz32 wrote in post #16545646
Could not have said it better. Some people just dont understand till they own a full frame and actually see the difference.

anyone can rent a FF before buy to see, there are no significant differences these days on higher ISOs (when shooting RAW). I borrowed 6D, 5d Mark III and even 1Ds Mark II before i bought 70D and i´am glad i did it, because i found out that 70D suits me better than 6D .. (only adequate upgrade would be probably 5d mark III, it´s AF monster) ...


Enjoy your camera, but try not be biased, not everyone has same preferences as you do.


EDIT :enough chit chat, few examples of what 70D is capable of on higher ISO to make a better image for potential buyers.

ISO 6400

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palad1n wrote in post #16545665
Its really hard to seek an advice anywhere, most of people are biased by what they got

dont let others to change your mind, both cameras are great and capable in the end. So pick the one, which suits you most.

I understand and honestly id rather have a 5DIII, the 6d just seems like the best bang for the buck for the time being. i know im not the only one who feels this way.

Don't get me wrong the pictures do look great, but i'm getting paid for my work, i need best image quality and the low light capabilities, with out spending 5DIII kind of money.

palad1n wrote in post #16545673
anyone can rent a FF before buy to see, there are no significant differences these days on higher ISOs (when shooting RAW). I borrowed 6D, 5d Mark III and even 1Ds Mark II before i bought 70D and i´am glad i did it, because i found out that 70D suits me better than 6D .. (only adequate upgrade would be probably 5d mark III, it´s AF monster) ...


Enjoy your camera, but try not be biased, not everyone has same preferences as you do.


EDIT :enough chit chat, few examples of what 70D is capable of on higher ISO to make a better image for potential buyers.

ISO 6400

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Ronnie (ISO 6400) by Lukas Kr., on Flickr

ISO 25600

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Canon 70D lowlight - ISO 25600 by Lukas Kr., on Flickr


And most importantly - get things in focus almost everytime thanks to AF system ! :

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Hungry Seagulls by Lukas Kr., on Flickr

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Feed me! (1000 views) by Lukas Kr., on Flickr

Nice shots!

What did you do for post on the ISO 25600??
Did you shoot raw or jpg out of camera?

I've been on POTN for about 3 years now, basically ever since I purchased my 60D. I would like to say that I agree with much of what is being said here:

• I've seen many great shots posted that are from the crop body cameras, I've also seen many average to poor shots from FF cameras. Much of what I see is truly the photographer, some the cameras, and some the glass.
  
  
• Just because you have a FF camera, there is no guarantee you will be a better photographer. Either way, you need to make the shot, not just take the shot. I've been on group shoots where the person that had the best shot was using an Rebel XSi.
  
  
• Those with higher end FF cameras, like the 5DIII or 1DX, spend a lot more time, and give fourth more effort to go out and get a great picture. They go on photo expeditions, climb mountains, or are out looking for that perfect sunset. They also may have studio lighting, flash triggers, filters and high end L glass. They are often in the business of photography; portraits, magazine shoots, weddings, etc. It can more than a hobby, so for them a FF body and everything else that goes with it is justified.
  
  
• Those of us who just enjoy photography for the fun of it, and not something we depend on to make a living, like a camera that can do a lot of things including sports, wildlife, and movies. We don't want to spend as much time, money, and effort. We will be very pleased with a crop body and one of the best being a 70D.
  

• The cost for the new body was small, the difference between what I sold my 60D for and the 70D was only $400.
  
  
• That marginal cost bought me a better AF system, touch screen controls, Micro focus adjust, slightly better IQ, built-in wifi, and a slightly better viewfinder. Some even claim slightly better high ISO performance.
  
  
• I didn't want to sell my EF-S lenses and buy new EF lenses. Not to mention, I'd be purchasing the lower end L glass, which in some cases would not be better than the glass I already have.
  

Lexar wrote in post #16545824
Nice shots!

What did you do for post on the ISO 25600??
Did you shoot raw or jpg out of camera?

Thanks. Only decent NR in ACR, nothing more, the biggest deal does resizing.
I only shoot RAW, because jpeg on 25600ISO would look awful on crop camera (being able to shoot high iso SOOC is still fullframe domain)

DaveKosiba: nicely said!