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5d mark ii + 135mm or 7d + 85mm 1.2 ii?

 
DieselTech
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Dec 25, 2013 02:53 |  #1

Hey guys,

I'm thinking about picking up a 135mm f2
Do you guys think I should just pick up a crop body like the 7d?
Or should I pick up the 135mm f2?

I as because on photozone.de, the 85mm 1.2 has an amazing review for the crop body and it has just mediocre review for the full frame. It has me thinking that maybe most of canon's lens lineup for the EF are optimized for the cropped body?


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Dec 25, 2013 03:19 |  #2

What do you want to shoot? The 85L has, as you know, a pretty slow AF so it won't work too well for sports, for instance.




  
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Dec 25, 2013 03:23 |  #3

I shoot pretty much anything and everything. Kids, family, plants, objects, and environments. The 7d would give me reach for all my lenses especially being able to extend the 200mm to 300mm with better auto focusing than the 5d mark ii. The 135mm would also give me another lens to love, though no weather sealing and no IS.


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Dec 25, 2013 04:26 |  #4

Probably go with the 7D, it'll give you the ability to shoot action and sports. On full frame the 70-200mm 2.8L IS II is a great portrait and event lens. But on the 7D it becomes an awesome sports lens.


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Dec 25, 2013 06:21 |  #5

I would go with the 7D because of the superior auto focus and the burst ability which will help when you are trying to shoot kids moving fast or sports in general.


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Dec 25, 2013 07:46 |  #6

FF > anything else.

Nouf said.


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Dec 25, 2013 09:28 |  #7

Talley wrote in post #16552818 (external link)
FF > anything else.

Nouf said.

pretty much. The one stop in light levels would be negated by the 1 stop ISO advantage of FF.

another issue is that the 135 is slightly better compared to the 85 wide open, so the flaws of the 85 would be amplified on crop, meaning that the 135 will seem significantly sharper wide open.

the 135 is a speed demon when it comes to focusing, where the 85 is pretty slow comparatively, so the advantages of the 7D like burst and AF would be lost. The 135 is a pretty damn fantastic lens, and I use it outdoors whenever possible.


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Dec 25, 2013 09:43 |  #8

btw, why aren't you using the 70-200 mark ii? I know if I had one of those, I wouldn't bother with the 135. It would be tough to love both 135 and 70-200.


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Dec 25, 2013 11:54 |  #9

I wouldn't touch the 85l if you're planning on using anything but the center focusing point on the 5d mii. On the 7d the 85l becomes much more viable even factoring that it focuses slower than the 135l.

Go with a ff option such as I did with the 1ds miii for a killer combination of image quality and focusing ability. Right now they can be had cheaper, around $500+ than a 5d miii.


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Dec 25, 2013 12:16 |  #10

Talley wrote in post #16552818 (external link)
FF > anything else.

Nouf said.

Should say 5d3 or above > anything else.

Some people might want to shoot moving subjects or use the outer AF points so you can't simply say all FF cameras are capable of that.

If I were the op I would sell the mk2 and buy the mk3 with the 135/2. Or buy a 70D or 7D and the 85/1.8 for the sports.


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Dec 25, 2013 12:54 |  #11

Kids, family, plants, objects, and environments, I would love FF.


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Dec 25, 2013 13:23 |  #12

The 135 on a FF is one of my favorite combos. They were made for each other.


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Dec 25, 2013 13:31 |  #13

DieselTech wrote in post #16552625 (external link)
It has me thinking that maybe most of canon's lens lineup for the EF are optimized for the cropped body?

EF lenses are not optimized for crop, APS-C simply uses the center of the glass. Most lenses get worse as you get to the edge of the frame, therefore they test better on crop cameras.



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Dec 25, 2013 14:01 |  #14

Judging by your gear list you probably don't need either. Your 70-200 can give you the 135L look. And while the 7D would put more pixels on target with a longer lens, a 1.4x teleconverter would do just about the same.




  
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Dec 25, 2013 14:11 as a reply to  @ Thorrulz's post |  #15

Perhaps you are suffering from a bout of GAS?

If you have an 85L, 100L, and 70-200 II, you 1000000000% don't need a 135L.

5D2's AF system is 100% fine. Do you really need to spend hundreds of dollars to move your servo AF point a smidgen across the frame? If the answer is really yes (really?), I'd get rid of all the lenses in your signature except the 85L, 100L, and 70-200, and put the money towards a 5D3.

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