IMG_4469
From our trip a couple years ago. I think the mountains in the background are in Jordan.
Dec 25, 2013 10:19 | #1 IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …77380157@N06/11536664296/ IMG_4469 From our trip a couple years ago. I think the mountains in the background are in Jordan. Ex-Canon shooter. Now Sony Nex.
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BrickR Cream of the Crop 5,935 posts Likes: 115 Joined Mar 2011 Location: Dallas TX More info | Dec 25, 2013 13:31 | #2 This isn't wide enough to gain my interest, but that's just me. I'd like to see an even slower shutter and wider FOV if possible (understanding that this is an older photo My junk
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jetcode Cream of the Crop 6,235 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2009 Location: West Marin More info | Dec 25, 2013 13:48 | #3 PermanentlyBasically this image lacks from proper printing. It's a nice image. In this print I used a graduated mask to print down the mids in the foreground. I also did a little sharpening. Image hosted by forum (671984) © jetcode [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.
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vk2gwk Cream of the Crop 13,359 posts Gallery: 332 photos Likes: 1836 Joined Jun 2009 Location: One Mile Beach, NSW 2316, Australia More info | Dec 25, 2013 13:55 | #4 I assume Jetcode uses the word "printing" instead of "processing".... My name is Henk. and I believe "It is all in the eye of the beholder....."
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jetcode Cream of the Crop 6,235 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2009 Location: West Marin More info | Dec 25, 2013 13:58 | #5 PermanentlyThe color never changed. Saturation increased because I printed down the mids. Processing is for computer scientists. Printing is for photographers. This is not an invention it is industry standard language.
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vk2gwk Cream of the Crop 13,359 posts Gallery: 332 photos Likes: 1836 Joined Jun 2009 Location: One Mile Beach, NSW 2316, Australia More info | Dec 25, 2013 14:28 | #6 Printing is what I used to do in my darkroom until 20 years ago when I went digital.... I hardly ever print anymore - leave that to my wife when she thinks one of my shots is interestingly enough for her wall ... My name is Henk. and I believe "It is all in the eye of the beholder....."
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jetcode Cream of the Crop 6,235 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2009 Location: West Marin More info | Dec 25, 2013 14:48 | #7 PermanentlyI am finding that monitors (high tech answer to print paper) deviate dramatically. When I use Photoshop I am still using dark room printing techniques. All the terms are near equivalents: burn, dodge, masks, contrast, gamma, unsharp mask (two images slightly offset highlighting edges). I knew a couple of darkroom printers who were hardcore and they produced amazing prints. It also took them a week or two to get an image dialed in. Some would use negative stacks that they printed (layers). By the way the burning down of the mids in this scene is similar in effect to using a polarizer.
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Dec 25, 2013 18:03 | #8 I like it being sharper. However, all that salt dissolved in the water creates a certain "milky" effect which I was trying to preserve, I'm afraid your edit makes it appear too translucent. Ex-Canon shooter. Now Sony Nex.
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Dec 25, 2013 21:19 | #9 Why not just sharpen the rocks and leave the water alone? -- Image Editing OK --
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sapearl Cream of the Crop More info | Dec 25, 2013 21:25 | #10 Qbx wrote in post #16553979 Why not just sharpen the rocks and leave the water alone? Agree - that's what I'd do; make an adjustment layer for just the rocks where they are the only objects being sharpened as you "erase away" that layer. The rest of the milky water will remain unaffected. GEAR LIST
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jetcode Cream of the Crop 6,235 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2009 Location: West Marin More info | Dec 26, 2013 12:01 | #11 PermanentlyI used high pass sharpening so the water was essentially untouched while the rocks and land strip were affected most. This was simply a demonstration of gaining clarity in the image foreground. The milky effect is still there but is less visible because it is no longer being saturated by high noon lighting.
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Dec 26, 2013 20:12 | #12 jetcode wrote in post #16555065 I used high pass sharpening so the water was essentially untouched while the rocks and land strip were affected most. This was simply a demonstration of gaining clarity in the image foreground. The milky effect is still there but is less visible because it is no longer being saturated by high noon lighting. There's also something else going on with water and mountains, they appear darker / bluer on my monitor... IMG_4469 Ex-Canon shooter. Now Sony Nex.
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jetcode Cream of the Crop 6,235 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2009 Location: West Marin More info | Dec 26, 2013 22:59 | #13 PermanentlyDid you get something out of this critique? Seems like you were looking for approval rather than critique.
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BigSkyKen Member 128 posts Likes: 5 Joined Apr 2010 Location: Montana More info | Dec 26, 2013 23:04 | #14 If you're using LR, I think you can improve on this by pulling a -.7 grad filter up from the bottom to take the edge off the rocks. Still too much highlight reflection going on there. BigSkyKen
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Dec 27, 2013 09:48 | #15 jetcode wrote in post #16556380 Did you get something out of this critique? Seems like you were looking for approval rather than critique. Not really, I was looking for the ways to make it better and I liked what you did to the rocks in the foreground, I just wanted to maintain the warmer color and sort of milky appearance of the water in the background, as it's one of the main characteristics of this place - the water is not like any salt water I saw before, it's really something different, more like oil or lotion. BigSkyKen wrote in post #16556392 If you're using LR, I think you can improve on this by pulling a -.7 grad filter up from the bottom to take the edge off the rocks. Still too much highlight reflection going on there. Ok, let me try this - is this enough ? Trying to not overdo it: IMG_4469-3 Ex-Canon shooter. Now Sony Nex.
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