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Is this an Old World House Sparrow?

 
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Dec 26, 2013 19:57 |  #1

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Dec 26, 2013 20:04 |  #2

Don't know about "old world", but yes :) Nice capture of one, too.


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Dec 26, 2013 20:24 |  #3

Many thanks, Eric.
The “Old World” reference comes from Peterson’s guide.
Fascinating that one of the most common (and widespread) birds is so pretty.
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Dec 26, 2013 20:28 |  #4

Nice shot Barry!!


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Dec 26, 2013 20:30 |  #5

Yep, house sparrow. An interloper from the "old world," introduced into North America by humans, one of many examples of ignorance and disregard for the long-term health of the ecosystem. Unfortunately, they out-compete many native species and along with the European starling, are probably significant contributors to the decline of many species in North America.

I have a hard time liking these species - the house sparrow, the starling, the nutria...


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Dec 26, 2013 20:43 |  #6

Yes, I dislike this bird and watch as they take over houses and over populate the feeders around my house. I put them in the same class as the black bird, but worse as I've seen them kill other birds simply because they flew into the wrong tree. as much as I'd love to get rid of them from my house, I just keep filling the feeders hoping the other birds can get some too!




  
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Dec 26, 2013 21:15 |  #7

Pondrader wrote in post #16556070 (external link)
Nice shot Barry!!

Thanks, Jeff!

Scrumhalf wrote in post #16556072 (external link)
Yep, house sparrow. An interloper from the "old world," introduced into North America by humans, one of many examples of ignorance and disregard for the long-term health of the ecosystem. Unfortunately, they out-compete many native species and along with the European starling, are probably significant contributors to the decline of many species in North America.

I have a hard time liking these species - the house sparrow, the starling, the nutria...

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Yes, I dislike this bird and watch as they take over houses and over populate the feeders around my house. I put them in the same class as the black bird, but worse as I've seen them kill other birds simply because they flew into the wrong tree. as much as I'd love to get rid of them from my house, I just keep filling the feeders hoping the other birds can get some too!

Wow, Scrum and Randy. Interesting to say the least. Thanks for the education. How sad that they may be so destructive.
Aesthetically they still have a beauty about them.
Thank you so much for your comments.


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Dec 26, 2013 21:48 |  #8

Sorry Barry, it was rather churlish of me to vent on the species without at least mentioning that your photos were great! My apologies! :)


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Dec 26, 2013 21:55 |  #9

I apologize as well... I thought we were talking about the bird and not the photo, so this shot reminds me of what I see in my yard all day long. Goldfinches getting booted from the feeders by these larger much more aggressive birds.

But it is a nice photo.




  
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Dec 26, 2013 21:57 |  #10

Beautiful photo


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Dec 27, 2013 05:29 |  #11

It is indeed a beautiful shot, very well done. They are a bit pesty, almost all the time, I have a whole gang around now. Tried just putting out sunflower seed, they seem to have figured that out. Between these guys and the tree Rats, most of the good stuff I put out gets gobbled up.
Those tree Rats now, I would enjoy seeing them disappear.


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Dec 27, 2013 06:54 |  #12

Ironically, the House Sparrow is in decline here in Britain. Where it was the archetypal urban bird and an icon of London, it is becoming scarce in our capital.

A great shot of one of my favourite birds.




  
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Dec 27, 2013 07:23 |  #13

Thankfully I don't seem to have any around my yard.


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Dec 27, 2013 09:22 |  #14

Scrumhalf wrote in post #16556240 (external link)
Sorry Barry, it was rather churlish of me to vent on the species without at least mentioning that your photos were great! My apologies! :)

RandyMN wrote in post #16556254 (external link)
I apologize as well... I thought we were talking about the bird and not the photo, so this shot reminds me of what I see in my yard all day long. Goldfinches getting booted from the feeders by these larger much more aggressive birds.

But it is a nice photo.

Scrum and Randy, apologies not necessary. How very kind of you.
I appreciate learning about them and that you shared your knowledge.
So even the bully dresses well :-)

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Beautiful photo

Thank you very much, John. I appreciate your comment.

Oldjackssparrows wrote in post #16556733 (external link)
It is indeed a beautiful shot, very well done. They are a bit pesty, almost all the time, I have a whole gang around now. Tried just putting out sunflower seed, they seem to have figured that out. Between these guys and the tree Rats, most of the good stuff I put out gets gobbled up.
Those tree Rats now, I would enjoy seeing them disappear.

Many thanks, Bret.
Under your circumstances, I see how they might wear out their welcome!
Thanks again!

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Ironically, the House Sparrow is in decline here in Britain. Where it was the archetypal urban bird and an icon of London, it is becoming scarce in our capital.

A great shot of one of my favourite birds.

Thank you very much for the compliment, Damon.
How interesting, ironic, and sad that they are disappearing from your yards.
It reminds me of the "we seldom appreciate anything until it is gone" lesson.
Thanks again!

Pondrader wrote in post #16556849 (external link)
Thankfully I don't seem to have any around my yard.

I never see any where I live either, Jeff. This was at my in-laws back yard.
That's why they struck me as being so pretty--I didn't know what a nuisance they were.
Dang, that reminds me of a few people I know :-)


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