charlesu wrote in post #16572544
Yes, I understand the free-market economy. In fact, I was an economics major (among others) in undergraduate school.
What I'm remarking about is the swelling of relatively new models with little talent, little experience, etc. asking for more per hour than my doctor makes.
...my hourly event rate is $180.00 per hour + GST. I charge that rate because I want to cover my overheads and make a profit. Comparing what I charge and what a doctor charges is as ridiculous as...well...comparing what a model charges to what a doctor charges. Is my rate ridiculous?
The problem? Well, I think the problem is that I'm not getting to work with models that I would like to work with.
Why would you want to work with them? You've just stated that these models have little talent and little experience, and you've also stated you have no problem booking good talent at the price you can afford.
So once again: what is the problem?
The models are not getting the bookings they'd like to get (they are not maximizing their own revenue). And it seems those models quickly grow disillusioned with the "industry" when photographers aren't simply lining up to pay them high rates.
How do you know what bookings the models are or are not getting? You can't judge that from their portfolio alone. As I said: what other people do really isn't any of your business.
The question in my mind is where they get the idea for suggesting something like $150 per hour.
That price is industry standard here.
I know for a fact that many of the models I have spoken to have been told they are worth that by the first person to shoot them.
What is your sample size? There are over 800 000 models on model mayhem, how many have you spoken to? This hasn't been my experience at all.
Usually, that person is a GWC who takes terrible photos, has no artistic eye and usually no original concept and has no idea how to coach a model. The GWC gets pics of a nekkid girl or nearly nekkid girl or whatever. The girl gets a huge ego boost because someone took pics of them and told them they were worth a pile of money and to get on MM or OMP or MB, etc. and post ridiculous rates.
And there are many models who are happy to shoot with GWC who also happen to choose to pay their rates. Free market at work. I thought you were an economics major?
I'm sure there are other sources for new models posting such high rates. But I've not really heard of any.
You should look harder.
Frankly, it's OK if I don't get to shoot someone who cannot figure the market out. Models are like buses. There will be another one along in a few minutes. But, for those who get disillusioned and never get to experience their potential it's probably a little disappointing.
I'm disappointed I can't afford to fly into space. I'm disappointed I drive a Ford Mondeo. I'm disappointed I don't have a pony. Welcome to life. If you want to book the model, then negotiate, or pay his/her price. I'm not sure what outcome you are looking for here. Do you want to regulate what models can charge?