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Jan 04, 2014 19:44 |  #1

Thanks for the help on the licensing issue. That was solved with the waiver signed by the team members. Below I will post an email from the rep that wants my photos for advertising. This is totally uncharted territory for me and I would like your input on fees to be charged and such.

Being that I was hired to do this shoot, is this still my property to charge a fee? or would it be the teams property and I just give them what they need. Thanks for all your help!

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Thank you for your reply, Matt;
***** North America would like to place a Team photo ( with your logo ) on the wall of the US office in Utah. Also - our corporate headquarters in Japan has expressed interest in acquiring team photos, They would like to include an image of your team when showing other resorts / teams our uniform product. This could be world wide - we have not heard how far they wanted to distribute some of the images. It may be a smaller image on a page - showing various teams wearing the ******* uniform product.

I can connect you to ******** Marketing with further questions. B.B is the Marketing Director.
******** corporate would want a digital file for your image(s). A logo on a group shot would be nice here, as well.

I can arrange to pick up a printed photo and purchase a frame for the picture. I will ship it to Utah.

Thank you!
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Jan 05, 2014 10:28 |  #2

As a general rule, if you are hired and paid, the images belong to the 'employer' or whomever contracted with you. If the team hired and paid you, then the team owns the images.

Sometimes the contract says: One time use ... sometimes the company/person that hires you gets all images forever.

When I work under contract for sports - say, shoot a game ... the publisher owns all rights, unless I specifically state I retain rights. I usually contract to give single image rights to anything they choose and publish, but it depends on the contract, and then I retain the rest. Matter of fact, I very often shoot a game and sell several different images from that game to multiple publishers.




  
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Jan 05, 2014 12:55 |  #3

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As a general rule, if you are hired and paid, the images belong to the 'employer' or whomever contracted with you. If the team hired and paid you, then the team owns the images.

Sometimes the contract says: One time use ... sometimes the company/person that hires you gets all images forever.

When I work under contract for sports - say, shoot a game ... the publisher owns all rights, unless I specifically state I retain rights. I usually contract to give single image rights to anything they choose and publish, but it depends on the contract, and then I retain the rest. Matter of fact, I very often shoot a game and sell several different images from that game to multiple publishers.


Thanks. There was no contract for this job. Nothing in writing. This is a gig that I got because my son was on the team for 6 years and the board members loved my action photos from the races. The board members are all good friends of mine.

I'm not looking for a fortune. I just want to make the correct deal, whatever that might be.


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Thanks. There was no contract for this job. Nothing in writing. This is a gig that I got because my son was on the team for 6 years and the board members loved my action photos from the races. The board members are all good friends of mine.

I'm not looking for a fortune. I just want to make the correct deal, whatever that might be.

Yeah, I get it. I've done the same thing for years with kids sports ... if anyone wants your images tho, I'd get something in writing telling exactly what your giving and getting, and any restrictions on the images.

Too often now, especially in the digital age, people think images are public property, and you can never tell where it will end up. I don't mind giving to organizations like you do, but if it ever ends up on some other advertising or another website where some one earns bucks for it, you (I) want to control it and get paid for it. Too many folks take free license with digital work nowadays, so we need be really careful with our work, even if it is play at the beginning.




  
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Jan 05, 2014 13:52 |  #5

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Yeah, I get it. I've done the same thing for years with kids sports ... if anyone wants your images tho, I'd get something in writing telling exactly what your giving and getting, and any restrictions on the images.

Too often now, especially in the digital age, people think images are public property, and you can never tell where it will end up. I don't mind giving to organizations like you do, but if it ever ends up on some other advertising or another website where some one earns bucks for it, you (I) want to control it and get paid for it. Too many folks take free license with digital work nowadays, so we need be really careful with our work, even if it is play at the beginning.


Exactly! I'm going to talk with the marketing rep tomorrow and see what exactly they want. Since they will use it for marketing, there is no way it can be for free. That's my feeling at least.


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