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Jan 06, 2014 12:47 |  #1

Wondering how many people are considering moving to Fuji full time or as their primary system once Fuji releases the 16-55 2.8OIS and 50-140 2.8 OIS?

With the 56 1.2 Fuji and 35 1.4 Fuji will have a serious professional lineup of lenses I the most popular portrait/people ranges. It has definitely got me eyeing it much harder now!


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Jan 06, 2014 12:52 |  #2

Not switching here. With all the press lately about the camera market significantly changing, there is going to have to be a fallout and only a few manufacturers making DSLRs are going to survive. Clearly the front runners are Canon and Nikon just because of market share alone. All the others are on a bubble and could go out of business at any time. Fuji falls into this category. Great cameras, nice sensor, but no market share.


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Jan 06, 2014 13:44 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #3

I have been mulling this switch for a bit now. I have been shooting more and more with my X100, and have been on paid shoots. I have been considering selling my 6D and accompanying lenses for an X-Pro 1 or X-E2 with a couple lenses. Having the ability to use strobes at higher 1/200 shutter is amazing! The JPEGs from the Fujis are amazing and have saved me a great deal of PP time.


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Jan 06, 2014 13:56 |  #4

gjl711 wrote in post #16582528 (external link)
Not switching here. With all the press lately about the camera market significantly changing, there is going to have to be a fallout and only a few manufacturers making DSLRs are going to survive. Clearly the front runners are Canon and Nikon just because of market share alone. All the others are on a bubble and could go out of business at any time. Fuji falls into this category. Great cameras, nice sensor, but no market share.

Fuji's important cameras aren't DSLRs. I'm not even sure if they currently produce a DSLR. Instead, they're in the group of companies making mirrorless cameras with DSLR performance in a significantly reduced form-factor. Canon and Nikon may very well be the last men standing when it comes to DSLRs, but that kind of misses the point. The DSLR market is under attack by upstarts like sony, fuji, panasonic, pentax, etc. that are making highly capable cameras that are smaller and lighter than a DSLR but deliver comparable image quality.


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Jan 06, 2014 14:25 |  #5

i made the switch long time ago and don't miss canon one bit.
i'm a landscape/portrait/fam​ily/travel shooter and the Fuji has worked well for me but it might not be the same for you.
sure the AF is not as fast as DSLR but it is fast enough for me but at least my camera bag has shrunk and lost some weight too.

try one out first though and see if you like holding one
if you are bird/sport shooter then don't bother, this camera is not meant for that genre


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Jan 06, 2014 14:31 |  #6

taemo wrote in post #16582753 (external link)
i made the switch long time ago and don't miss canon one bit.
i'm a landscape/portrait/fam​ily/travel shooter and the Fuji has worked well for me but it might not be the same for you.
sure the AF is not as fast as DSLR but it is fast enough for me but at least my camera bag has shrunk and lost some weight too.

try one out first though and see if you like holding one
if you are bird/sport shooter then don't bother, this camera is not meant for that genre

Same here. The one thing I do wish Fuji would invest in is a more developed flash system. Otherwise, totally content.


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Jan 06, 2014 14:33 |  #7

mplezia wrote in post #16582690 (external link)
... The DSLR market is under attack by upstarts like sony, fuji, panasonic, pentax, etc. that are making highly capable cameras that are smaller and lighter than a DSLR but deliver comparable image quality.

I thought that this was the case as well, but there have been several articles in the news recently stating that phone cameras are putting significant pressure on the P/S market almost to the point of collapse and it's affecting the mirrorless and DSLR markets as well. This coming off a horrible 2012, 2013 looks to be worse. If 2014 continues the trend, there will have to be a shake out. I figure with Fuji so heavily in the markets where the drop is the biggest, they could have issues.

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Don't want to make the a sky is falling thread, but it looks as if there are too many players in the market and somewhere, sometime, the fringe players need to fall by the wayside.


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Jan 06, 2014 14:57 |  #8

taemo wrote in post #16582753 (external link)
i made the switch long time ago and don't miss canon one bit.
i'm a landscape/portrait/fam​ily/travel shooter and the Fuji has worked well for me but it might not be the same for you.
sure the AF is not as fast as DSLR but it is fast enough for me but at least my camera bag has shrunk and lost some weight too.

try one out first though and see if you like holding one
if you are bird/sport shooter then don't bother, this camera is not meant for that genre

This is why I asked, it is pretty much what I'm looking at doing. I'm really a still life/portrait/family shooter and current mirrorless AF systems are plenty fast enough for what I do and those with face detection AF make my shooting much simpler and faster. I would miss DSLR AF speeds only on rare occasions at this point. I would love to see Fuji do a leaf shutter (?) in all X bodies for unlimited x-sync. That makes me drool! :)

Fuji has a lens lineup roadmap that is bloody impressive considering how long (should I say short) they've been at it with the X lineup.


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Jan 06, 2014 15:09 |  #9

I borrowed a friends xpro1 for vacation last year and loved it, it actually inspired me to buy my M this year. I would contemplate switching if I never shot video. Video wise canon is the only system that I have ever felt really gels with how I like to shoot and produces the quality that I like.

That being said I haven't been able to get my hands on an A7 to try yet and I know Sony has been in the video game for a long time too.


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Jan 06, 2014 15:09 |  #10

gjl711 wrote in post #16582769 (external link)
I thought that this was the case as well, but there have been several articles in the news recently stating that phone cameras are putting significant pressure on the P/S market almost to the point of collapse and it's affecting the mirrorless and DSLR markets as well. This coming off a horrible 2012, 2013 looks to be worse. If 2014 continues the trend, there will have to be a shake out. I figure with Fuji so heavily in the markets where the drop is the biggest, they could have issues.

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ANd if you want the raw data, look here (external link).

Don't want to make the a sky is falling thread, but it looks as if there are too players in the market and somewhere, sometime, the fringe players need to fall by the wayside.

Very interesting data. Thanks.

The november 2013 data is here: http://www.cipa.jp …ocuments/e/d-201311_e.pdf (external link)

Looking at ytd (jan-nov) unit shipments--

Still camera total 58,953,281 (-36.8%)
Built in lens 43,108,387 (-42%)
Interchangeable lens - SLR 12,856,069 (-15%)
Interchangeable lens - non-reflex 2,988,825 (-17.8%)

It's not the whole universe of companies, but it does include nearly all of the significant manufacturers.

Point and shoots getting killed and more mid and upper tier cameras faring a little better.

Very interesting.


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Jan 07, 2014 11:53 as a reply to  @ mplezia's post |  #11

I bought a Fuji X100s (and Sony NEX-7) mirrorless but will still keep my T4i. Eventually, I'll probably have the mirrorless be from one company but will keep my DSLR. I've got 4 very good lenses for the DSLR to give it up.

Different cameras for different purposes: (1) X100s for general purpose and street shooting; (2) X100s and NEX-7 for travel; and, (3) T4i for sports and macro.


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Jan 07, 2014 21:49 |  #12

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Jan 08, 2014 14:21 as a reply to  @ kf095's post |  #13

The pressure is coming, but at least from where I sit.....nothing touches my DSLR. I see the appeal for the hobby shooters and enthusiasts.....in form factor alone its great for carrying. I am coming at it from a working pro though, I don't see a family of cameras even remotely close to my DSLRs in versatility, image quality, durability, usability, and reliability.

I have large hands, and routinely shoot for 8-12 hours during some days. I've held the Fuji cameras, my hand would struggle with them all day (same as they did on a consumer dslr). Yes my bag of lenses and cameras is big, and heavy, but its that way because they are made out of metal and glass, and are fast lenses. They get beat around 300 days out of the year, and perform admirably. Dirt, moisture, wind, salt, you name it they have been through it. Personally the large format I think gives you better access to your buttons and functions to run it without looking, and I still say holding the camera to your eye is the best way to compose a shot.

I get the appeal, I've considered a fuji for personal use and trips, I think it would be great for that, I just don't see it for the all day every day grind yet, but then again others may disagree and thats ok too.


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Jan 08, 2014 15:30 |  #14

tlzimmerman wrote in post #16588652 (external link)
The pressure is coming, but at least from where I sit.....nothing touches my DSLR. I see the appeal for the hobby shooters and enthusiasts.....in form factor alone its great for carrying. I am coming at it from a working pro though, I don't see a family of cameras even remotely close to my DSLRs in versatility, image quality, durability, usability, and reliability.

I get the appeal, I've considered a fuji for personal use and trips, I think it would be great for that, I just don't see it for the all day every day grind yet, but then again others may disagree and that's ok too.

100% agree, although I'm just a hobbyist. I recently bought an X-E2 and the 35mm 1.4 lens; it's a great combo. And, honestly, for a lot of day to day shooting, it's as good as my 60D if not better (e.g., low light). At about half the size, it's a great little camera. But, it's kind of a luxury. If I needed one camera to do everything (kids, sports, travel, etc.) it would need to be a DSLR. But the Fuji fits in great as a back-up or second camera for a lot of purposes particularly travel and indoor family stuff.


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Jan 08, 2014 20:45 |  #15

Since buying my X-E1 just over a year ago, I've shot my 5Dii twice. The only reason I keep it is because of the flash system and the 135mm f/2L and 70-200 f/4L IS. The Fuji produces images with the same resolution but just over a stop more dynamic range. Don't miss the weight of the Canon, that's for sure. Plus, I get to use all my old FD lenses with the Fuji.


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